Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

[2sheikhs]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

Here me out, this is NOT a 'Mancini out' post. Or in relation to tonight's failings against Dortmund. Just a post on how i feel about Mancini's future and why his job at City is constantly talked about.

Firstly we'll rule out the following comments, neither of 4 terms below are relevant to the post i will put forward:

1. 'Unbeaten in the league' - United have lost 3 games and sit above us in the league with a better goal difference. Would you say 'unbeaten in the league' if we drew 38 games in a season? no. We've been shite most the season, could easily have lost games due to obscure tactics and substitutions and getting away with murder. We've been outplayed by teams in the bottom half of The Premiership time and time again.

2. 'He won us the league' - The resources given he should have walked the league. Won it due to a United downfall and it took Brian Kidd to convince Mancini we could claw it back. The quality of the side pulled us through IMO, you'd think we won it by 15 points the way some talk.

3. 'Remember where we've come from' - by FAR the most overused and stupidest comment around these days. We've got a team worth £400mill, not £5mill. It's 2012, not 1998. Give it a rest..

4. 'We need stability' - true, but stability and loyalty to managers counts for nothing when the team doesn't improve.

The reason:

When a club moves forward so does the managers. The owners/fans as each year goes on expect to see an improvement and City competing and performing at the highest level.

Mancini is a great manager, imo not one of the best in the world. Probably not even top 5 imo, when the club get's to a certain point it has to 'upgrade' so to speak with the level it moves towards. We've had Hughes who wasn't the best but played a part in buying bigger players and moving us forward ever so slightly and make us a better team, now we have Mancini. He's driven us on and taken us to the next part of our journey in what this club is aiming for, no expects instant glory and success but they want to see improvement and the club going forward.

Our team is built, the foundations are there now. We've got a top top side which should be able to compete at the highest level (not go and beat everyone and win everything) just compete and take the game to teams. I'd relish Mourinho at City, but i want Mancini to prove me wrong and not have me worrying about anyone else. I keep trying to give him the benefit of the doubt but I always end up going back to my original stance.

Far too often we respect lesser teams. Instead of going for the kill when the opponents are on the rack, we sit back, stroll around and play the game at a walking pace when the chances are that we'd have wrapped the game up playing to our own strengths. This team would be excellent if it was allowed to express itself but it isn't. He holds us back, the small and little amount of times we have been given the freedom to attack we've been brilliant.

The key line here - Our side is now missing a proper tactical, inside out knowledgeable world class manager. If a manager came in he wouldn't have to buy more than 2 players, the ones at disposal now would be any managers dream. I like Mancini, but i think we need a real proper good tactical coach to take us to the next level. IMO Mancini is not that man, he'll only try to improve the squad by constant spending and not improve the team through management.

Europe is a far cry, he hasn't got it. The Premiership is another story, is HE really responsible for us winning the league? Our side needs a world class manager to make us what we want to be. The bottom line is, Mancini will be gone because he can't take us to that next level. Despite the fact that football's about opinions, more & more blues are taking offence at any honest comments made.

This is not 'Mancini out', remember i'm talking about having a manager being good enough to manage what he has. Mancini is not out of his depth, or a poor manager. He is a great manager but he just isn't up to scratch to take us to where the fans/owner want to be. He's part of the chain of our rise to the top and he'll be one of the managers who had his turn to get us there. But not the final piece of the jigsaw, and the height of quality we aimed for

Quite simply if you want be the best, you need to hire the best. We're reaching that level now...

I bet he won't be coming to you for a reference. ;)

 

[Freestyler]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

City have the better goal difference.

and so they do i got it wrong, sorry.

Still doesn't change the whole emphasis of the thread.<br /><br />-- Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:41 am --<br /><br />

Sounds like an out post, looks like a out post, so is IMO an out post. Btw full of inaccuracies and contradictions

Why is it a Mancini out post?

For simply explaining why i think he won't remain at City?

it's not.

 

[Berkovic_blue]

Just in case people forget - we are the current league CHAMPIONS. Scored the most goals, conceded the least, hammered our closest rivals home and away to the extent that they absolutely shit themselves when playing at our place. Oh, and we played the best football too.

People wanting Mancini out now need to either grow up and obtain some dignity or fuck off and support Chelsea.

As for the Mourinho fanboys, the river of tears would be unprecedented if he was currently arsefucking our league form the way he is doing to Madrid. Who would be your next Messiah then?<br /><br />-- Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:46 am --<br /><br />

Never mind giving the head a wobble, how about changing the mindset?

I think it's called a "winning mentality" in Gary Cook speak.

Are you actually suggesting the squad does not have a 'winning mentality'?

Delusion knows no bounds it seems

 

[blumoonrisen]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

He's part of the chain of our rise to the top and he'll be one of the managers who had his turn to get us there.

Maybe... but whats the big rush..?

 

[Freestyler]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

He's part of the chain of our rise to the top and he'll be one of the managers who had his turn to get us there.

Maybe... but whats the big rush..?

There isn't one.

But what do you want to achieve this season?

If we don't win anything this season alot of people will ask questions.

The point i underlined is what i'm saying, it's built now. We're ready for that next step..

 

[stony]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

Could this not have gone in one of the existing Mancini in/out threads ?

 

[dronefromsector7g]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

City have the better goal difference.

and so they do i got it wrong, sorry.

Still doesn't change the whole emphasis of the thread.

No probs.

Don't underestimate the unbeaten tag. There's a belief within the squad that we can get results. 21 league games, 2 years at home unbeaten. The rags could easily have lost 6 games already, and their poor defence will eventually cost them if we can start finding the net more regularly. I don't agree that lowly teams have outplayed us regularly, but admit we need to step up and fast.

 

[blumoonrisen]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

He's part of the chain of our rise to the top and he'll be one of the managers who had his turn to get us there.

Maybe... but whats the big rush..?

There isn't one.

But what do you want to achieve this season?

If we don't win anything this season alot of people will ask questions.

well clearly you need to judge him at the end of the season, would you be unhappy if we "only" retain the title..?

 

[guinnessdaze]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

Totally agree with Freestyler. Although we don't want to lose our respectable image,the press has done a wonderful job of tarnishing that so far.

 

[Berkovic_blue]

To be honest, I think it's only Guardiola's insistence at a prolonged break that is keeping Bob in a job. If Guardiola said yes, Bob woud be gone by Friday IMHO.

I am still not backing down from my prediction of Bob gone by January... Which was pretty much ridiculed when I posted it a few weeks back.

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It deserved ridicule at the very least. Hopefully you'll be brave enough to show your face when your prediction is proved to be disatrously wrong ;)

 

[Freestyler]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

Maybe... but whats the big rush..?

There isn't one.

But what do you want to achieve this season?

If we don't win anything this season alot of people will ask questions.

well clearly you need to judge him at the end of the season, would you be unhappy if we "only" retain the title..?

I will judge him at the end, but this is the point i make. I'm talking about the quality of the team and how it's being managed to how i see it.

 

[Sigh]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

Don't care really. I ran out of excuses for him last New Year. He's not all that. Not worth butting heads about it though on here.

 

[blumoonrisen]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

There isn't one.

But what do you want to achieve this season?

If we don't win anything this season alot of people will ask questions.

well clearly you need to judge him at the end of the season, would you be unhappy if we "only" retain the title..?

I will judge him at the end, but this is the point i make. I'm talking about the quality of the team and how it's being managed to how i see it.

Still sounds like impatience to me, splinkled with a few contradictions.

 

[Berkovic_blue]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

Oh marvellous, yet another attention seeking thread

 

[stony]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

I'm talking about the quality of the team and how it's being managed to how i see it.

In other words another Mancini out thread but with a different title.


I ask again, is there any reason this deserves it's own thread ?

 

[Freestyler]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

Oh marvellous, yet another attention seeking thread

It's a forum, everyone arse licks players/manager. They also can discuss various things.

Tell me where you can't make a post discussing player/managers without being jumped on?

yeah exactly, don't like what you see?

don't reply and shut up.

 

[McFcMiKe7]

Because we as a club want to win the champions league and ,now lets be honest, he does seem rather clueless and stubborn when it comes to European football. At the end of the day I will be cheering and support him while he is in charge but I do believe his days are numbered if this keeps on happening.

 

[stony]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

Oh marvellous, yet another attention seeking thread

It's a forum, everyone arse licks players/manager. They also can discuss various things.

Tell me where you can't make a post discussing player/managers without being jumped on?

yeah exactly, don't like what you see?

don't reply and shut up.

I think you'll find the problem is that you've started another thread when there is already other threads where you could have posted this.

 

[Berkovic_blue]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

Oh marvellous, yet another attention seeking thread

It's a forum, everyone arse licks players/manager. They also can discuss various things.

Tell me where you can't make a post discussing player/managers without being jumped on?

yeah exactly, don't like what you see?

don't reply and shut up.

Lol, settle down. It's a forum like you say, don;t like criticism, don't start shit threads? There's already at least two other threads that you could've posted your drivel in.

The condescending title presented as a fact shows your true nature.

 

[Dethred]

Re: The Reasons Why Mancini Won't Survive At City

You know, it doesn't take a genius to look at what a manager has at his disposal financially, and then look at what he does with that on the pitch.

Mancini has been an embarrassment over his 12 games with City in the CL.

-12 matches.
-3 wins.
-2 of those from a team that was later relegated from La Liga.
-1 of those 2 wins against relegated Villareal was a late late lucky Aguero goal.
-1 of those 2 wins against relegated Villareal was after their only stars who could be considered worthy of our NextGen squad were out injured.
-The only other win was against a reserves Bayern Munich side at Eastlands.

Mancini has set a record for the Champions League, however. He has provided the worst performance by an English club in the tournament's history. All this... with an essentially unlimited budget. That's not what you pay a Billion pounds for. It just isn't. You don't pay a billion pounds for an FA cup either. Its nice to win it, and its great for us fans, but its not what you spend 1,000,000,000 pounds for. A premier league trophy is great, its the right direction. But even a second one won't make someone who spends 1,000,000,000 pounds feel like he's gotten value for money.

I personally don't want him out, but the above situation pretty much demands it. I, like most fans, would love to win a domestic trophy year in, year out. That's not what our benefactor has spent 1,000,000,000 pounds for.