Wilkins for City ??

oakiecokie

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Not seen it on here,so Mods please remove if this has already been discussed.
Talk about Ray Wilkins being brought in by Bobby Manc.Certain it was in the MEN late last week.
Thoughts ??
IMO did a very good job at Chelsea and speaks fluent Italian,so could help Bobby.
 
oakiecokie said:
Not seen it on here,so Mods please remove if this has already been discussed.
Talk about Ray Wilkins being brought in by Bobby Manc.Certain it was in the MEN late last week.
Thoughts ??
IMO did a very good job at Chelsea and speaks fluent Italian,so could help Bobby.

Don't see why not...and a thoroughly nice chap too.
 
In what role exactly? I don't see where this is space except for another handyman to carry the cones and translate.
 
Lucky13 said:
Chairman Wesker said:
he wants to lick the ass of the rags at every given opertunity though. i don't see why we should have a pro rag coach at our club unless he's willing to change his views drastically

He didn't at Chelsea.

He didn't need to whilst he was taking the Roman shilling. Besides talking fluent Italian, he's been known to talk fluent crap. His 'fluency' grates on me. I suppose each club is 'blessed' with one employee! Surely we have our share with DuckBilled?
 
Christ, we'll have to get extra seats installed for the back room staff!
 
oakiecokie said:
Chairman Wesker said:
he wants to lick the ass of the rags at every given opertunity though. i don't see why we should have a pro rag coach at our club unless he's willing to change his views drastically

Oh but its OK to have Brian Kidd and David Platt !!
Thick school kid !!


Ha, you beat me to it!
 
jimmy blue shoes said:
oakiecokie said:
Chairman Wesker said:
he wants to lick the ass of the rags at every given opertunity though. i don't see why we should have a pro rag coach at our club unless he's willing to change his views drastically

Oh but its OK to have Brian Kidd and David Platt !!
Thick school kid !!


Ha, you beat me to it!

Don`t you just dispair.Be better when the kids go back to school next week !!
 
Chelsea fell apart for a while when he left, so clearly he can have a positive impact here. And speaking as a coach myself (albeit a very different level), having more top class coaches with a squad this size can really help get the best out of the entire squad. Little things a coach can point out can make a big difference to individual players, and more coaces means more little things for more players. Only downside will be for Mancini to manage the 3 senior coaches, and finding room on the bench.
 
We've been talking to him for a while apparently and I'd assumed it was part of a potential deal with Mourinho. Obviously that (JM) isn't going to happen so we must be talking to him on his own account.

I know he was well-liked at Chelsea but am not too sure how much input he had into coaching. Story is it wasn't too much and his role had more to do with player relationships than actual coaching. Abramovich might have sacked him because he was worried he was too close to the players. Heard some stories about drinking as well. Allegedly.

If he is coming in i could see it being as a replacement for Kidd, who I think is also largely responsible for looking after the players and in his 60's now.
 
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I had a good old rant about him on a thread in general football which I can't be arsed repeating. However, the jist of it is, he is just a bit stupid.

I cannot imagine what knowledgeable input he would provide other than being a highly paid dogsbody/cone collector/arselicker.<br /><br />-- Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:42 pm --<br /><br />Here you go:

Wilkins, like Steve McClaren, is someone who is desperate to sound knowledgeable and credible and thinks that this is achieved by going all out to ape, copy, imitate and do an impression of people that really are.

The clown started it when Vialli came over here and he was desperate to tell anyone who would listen that they were big mates. The sad case even went as far as starting to dress like him and to get his head shaved completely like him. The idiot had been a comb over and track suit man up until then. But as Vialli was seen as this (not necessarily correctly) sophisticated, European football aristocrat, Raymond figured that he could be the same by attempting to copy his every move.

However, where Wilkins gives himself away so much is that he doesn't just stick to attempting to copying mannerisms and style, he - just like McClaren - laughably intentionally throws in phrases that he believes makes him sound like a 'knowledgeable FOOTBALL MAN'.

You'd expect that sort of behaviour from a 5 year old copying his big brother, but both Wilkins and McClaren have been doing it for so long that they are no longer themselves, they are caricatures of what they believe "intelligent football people" sound like. Of course, this makes them talk utter shit as both of them aren't, being kind, the sharpest tool in the box and they mistake cliche for intelligence. And like all caricatures they sounds ludicrous because they are basically a piss take, albeit an unintentional one on their part.

What is shameful is that over the last 10 years there have been so many people - both his mates in the media and some fans - who have, to differing degrees, bought into his shtick.

In any other industry his lack of intelligence and constant creeping to those he believes to be respected, would be seen through quickly and recognised as ridiculous. But English football, still being populated by a lot of Wilkins type characters (i.e. idiots) in many areas, still seems to accept this sort of prat.

Just look at the amount of people this time last year suggesting that Chelsea's early season form and subsequent fall off, was all down to him - a man who wouldn't know an original thought if it hit him in the face.
 
He's 100% coming but wont be replacing anyone.

Rated very highly as a coach and has superb knowledge in terms of european football.
 
Chairman Wesker said:
he wants to lick the ass of the rags at every given opertunity though. i don't see why we should have a pro rag coach at our club unless he's willing to change his views drastically

IMO i think your wrong, he always compliments city when he's commentating, he always says how he loves how we play football etc. I wouldnt call him a pro rag
 
mike o said:
He's 100% coming but wont be replacing anyone.

Rated very highly as a coach and has superb knowledge in terms of european football.

I hope so! I had a good chat with Fbloke at the back end of last season about this. Very good appointment if true
 

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