Wills and Kate

Damocles said:
stonerblue said:
Damocles said:
Royal expenses dont go up and down as they are born and die, and their cost is 15% of the profits of the land they own. The keen mathematicians out there might realise that 15 is actually a smaller number than 100 and might wonder if the entire Royal budget is 15% then where does 85% go to you?

It goes into your pocket.

They are a self sufficient corporation. You are leeching off of them.

Amazing how many people seemingly obsessed with Royal expenses dont actually know anything about Royal expenses

Dunno how you work that out either.

I have literally just explained this above.

They give you the taxpayer 85% of their corporate profits, you cost them money, not the other way around. AND they get taxed on their income as income tax.

56p (there abouts, I can't be bothered checking for an update) goes out of everyone's pocket.

You need to explain more clearly how we cost them money and how it aint the other way around.
 
dobobobo said:
Damocles said:
stonerblue said:
Dunno how you work that out either.

I have literally just explained this above.

They give you the taxpayer 85% of their corporate profits, you cost them money, not the other way around. AND they get taxed on their income as income tax.

56p (there abouts, I can't be bothered checking for an update) goes out of everyone's pocket.

You need to explain more clearly how we cost them money and how it aint the other way around.

No, it doesn't. That figure (well the accurate version of it anyway) is derived by looking at the Crown expenses then looking at the number of taxpayers and doing a simple division. That is stupendously dumb.

The Crown is a one person legal entity and corporation. As part of a deal that stretches back about 400 years, the Crown has always given the revenues from the Crown Lands straight to the Treasury who then give the combined Royal Family a set fee to live off. This living off includes all travel and upkeep expenses of all the Palaces as well as their personal stuff such as diplomatic dinners and the like.

Every new monarch after their coronation was asked to renew this agreement and every monarch has done including Queen Elizabeth II.

In 2012, this was changed from a set fee to a changeable fee based on the profits made by the Crown Lands. Now instead of a set fee givne to run the Royals, they now get 15% of the profits of the Crown Estate.

This means that the Treasury gets 85% of them and gets to list them as an asset.

The Crown Estate's holdings are worth about £8 billion. It's annual profits last accounts were £253m of which the Royal Family got their share of £38m to run their affairs and the Treasury got £215m.

You the taxpayer don't pay a single penny to the upkeep of the Royals, let alone 56 single pennies. They pay for themselves based on the Crown Estate revenue and in fact they give the country about £7 per taxpayer per year, or 700 pennies to keep it in the units you have used.

And this is just direct revenue off of the Crown Estate. Indirect revenue such as the tourism factor and the like is a totally different thing.
 
Damocles said:
dobobobo said:
Damocles said:
I have literally just explained this above.

They give you the taxpayer 85% of their corporate profits, you cost them money, not the other way around. AND they get taxed on their income as income tax.

56p (there abouts, I can't be bothered checking for an update) goes out of everyone's pocket.

You need to explain more clearly how we cost them money and how it aint the other way around.

No, it doesn't. That figure (well the accurate version of it anyway) is derived by looking at the Crown expenses then looking at the number of taxpayers and doing a simple division. That is stupendously dumb.

The Crown is a one person legal entity and corporation. As part of a deal that stretches back about 400 years, the Crown has always given the revenues from the Crown Lands straight to the Treasury who then give the combined Royal Family a set fee to live off. This living off includes all travel and upkeep expenses of all the Palaces as well as their personal stuff such as diplomatic dinners and the like.

Every new monarch after their coronation was asked to renew this agreement and every monarch has done including Queen Elizabeth II.

In 2012, this was changed from a set fee to a changeable fee based on the profits made by the Crown Lands. Now instead of a set fee givne to run the Royals, they now get 15% of the profits of the Crown Estate.

This means that the Treasury gets 85% of them and gets to list them as an asset.

The Crown Estate's holdings are worth about £8 billion. It's annual profits last accounts were £253m of which the Royal Family got their share of £38m to run their affairs and the Treasury got £215m.

You the taxpayer don't pay a single penny to the upkeep of the Royals, let alone 56 single pennies. They pay for themselves based on the Crown Estate revenue and in fact they give the country about £7 per taxpayer per year, or 700 pennies to keep it in the units you have used.

And this is just direct revenue off of the Crown Estate. Indirect revenue such as the tourism factor and the like is a totally different thing.

The 56p point is always used by the media in terms of how much the Royal Family costs each person, so I'm more inclined to listen to them than some guy on the internet.

You still haven't answered how we are leeching off them.
 
No news on a name yet?

I quite like Adolfa myself. "Noble Wolf".

True to family heritage too.

Princess Adolfa of Cambridge.
 
dobobobo said:
Damocles said:
dobobobo said:
56p (there abouts, I can't be bothered checking for an update) goes out of everyone's pocket.

You need to explain more clearly how we cost them money and how it aint the other way around.

No, it doesn't. That figure (well the accurate version of it anyway) is derived by looking at the Crown expenses then looking at the number of taxpayers and doing a simple division. That is stupendously dumb.

The Crown is a one person legal entity and corporation. As part of a deal that stretches back about 400 years, the Crown has always given the revenues from the Crown Lands straight to the Treasury who then give the combined Royal Family a set fee to live off. This living off includes all travel and upkeep expenses of all the Palaces as well as their personal stuff such as diplomatic dinners and the like.

Every new monarch after their coronation was asked to renew this agreement and every monarch has done including Queen Elizabeth II.

In 2012, this was changed from a set fee to a changeable fee based on the profits made by the Crown Lands. Now instead of a set fee givne to run the Royals, they now get 15% of the profits of the Crown Estate.

This means that the Treasury gets 85% of them and gets to list them as an asset.

The Crown Estate's holdings are worth about £8 billion. It's annual profits last accounts were £253m of which the Royal Family got their share of £38m to run their affairs and the Treasury got £215m.

You the taxpayer don't pay a single penny to the upkeep of the Royals, let alone 56 single pennies. They pay for themselves based on the Crown Estate revenue and in fact they give the country about £7 per taxpayer per year, or 700 pennies to keep it in the units you have used.

And this is just direct revenue off of the Crown Estate. Indirect revenue such as the tourism factor and the like is a totally different thing.

The 56p point is always used by the media in terms of how much the Royal Family costs each person, so I'm more inclined to listen to them than some guy on the internet.

You still haven't answered how we are leeching off them.

Here is the Sovereign Grant Act 2011 that outlines the 15% revenue share from the Crown Estate replacing the old system of the Civil List. Notice that this is literally the law that was passed and not a blog post or a t-shirt with a slogan on it

Here are the official financial accounts of the Crown Estate that outlines the current yearly revenue and gives a breakdown of the income to the Treasury. Notice that this is literally published financial accounts and not an article in the paper next to a picture of a woman's tits.

"The media" that you read is obviously bullshit. I'd suggest instead looking the odd thing up yourself now and again.

And we are "leeching" off of them because instead of collecting £250m a year to the Crown, it is given to the British Treasury to spend on taxpayers. If them taking a non-existent 56p from the tax income is "leeching" then the tax income taking money off them also qualifies as "leeching". It is the exactly same act but the flow of money reversed.
 
dobobobo said:
Damocles said:
dobobobo said:
56p (there abouts, I can't be bothered checking for an update) goes out of everyone's pocket.

You need to explain more clearly how we cost them money and how it aint the other way around.

No, it doesn't. That figure (well the accurate version of it anyway) is derived by looking at the Crown expenses then looking at the number of taxpayers and doing a simple division. That is stupendously dumb.

The Crown is a one person legal entity and corporation. As part of a deal that stretches back about 400 years, the Crown has always given the revenues from the Crown Lands straight to the Treasury who then give the combined Royal Family a set fee to live off. This living off includes all travel and upkeep expenses of all the Palaces as well as their personal stuff such as diplomatic dinners and the like.

Every new monarch after their coronation was asked to renew this agreement and every monarch has done including Queen Elizabeth II.

In 2012, this was changed from a set fee to a changeable fee based on the profits made by the Crown Lands. Now instead of a set fee givne to run the Royals, they now get 15% of the profits of the Crown Estate.

This means that the Treasury gets 85% of them and gets to list them as an asset.

The Crown Estate's holdings are worth about £8 billion. It's annual profits last accounts were £253m of which the Royal Family got their share of £38m to run their affairs and the Treasury got £215m.

You the taxpayer don't pay a single penny to the upkeep of the Royals, let alone 56 single pennies. They pay for themselves based on the Crown Estate revenue and in fact they give the country about £7 per taxpayer per year, or 700 pennies to keep it in the units you have used.

And this is just direct revenue off of the Crown Estate. Indirect revenue such as the tourism factor and the like is a totally different thing.

The 56p point is always used by the media in terms of how much the Royal Family costs each person, so I'm more inclined to listen to them than some guy on the internet.

You still haven't answered how we are leeching off them.
then do some reading around it you fucking idiot.
 
SWP's back said:
dobobobo said:
Damocles said:
No, it doesn't. That figure (well the accurate version of it anyway) is derived by looking at the Crown expenses then looking at the number of taxpayers and doing a simple division. That is stupendously dumb.

The Crown is a one person legal entity and corporation. As part of a deal that stretches back about 400 years, the Crown has always given the revenues from the Crown Lands straight to the Treasury who then give the combined Royal Family a set fee to live off. This living off includes all travel and upkeep expenses of all the Palaces as well as their personal stuff such as diplomatic dinners and the like.

Every new monarch after their coronation was asked to renew this agreement and every monarch has done including Queen Elizabeth II.

In 2012, this was changed from a set fee to a changeable fee based on the profits made by the Crown Lands. Now instead of a set fee givne to run the Royals, they now get 15% of the profits of the Crown Estate.

This means that the Treasury gets 85% of them and gets to list them as an asset.

The Crown Estate's holdings are worth about £8 billion. It's annual profits last accounts were £253m of which the Royal Family got their share of £38m to run their affairs and the Treasury got £215m.

You the taxpayer don't pay a single penny to the upkeep of the Royals, let alone 56 single pennies. They pay for themselves based on the Crown Estate revenue and in fact they give the country about £7 per taxpayer per year, or 700 pennies to keep it in the units you have used.

And this is just direct revenue off of the Crown Estate. Indirect revenue such as the tourism factor and the like is a totally different thing.

The 56p point is always used by the media in terms of how much the Royal Family costs each person, so I'm more inclined to listen to them than some guy on the internet.

You still haven't answered how we are leeching off them.
then do some reading around it you fucking idiot.

I already did, and this website made more sense than what you have written: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.royal.gov.uk/TheRoyalHousehold/Royalfinances/Sourcesoffunding/TheSovereignGrant.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.royal.gov.uk/TheRoyalHouseho ... Grant.aspx</a>

Thanks to the media though they have people employed to break it down for us plebs to understand. Which is why the media use the 56p point to help explain how much it costs each person.

All I am asking is for you to explain how we are leeching off the Royal Family, a link to a credible website will suffice.

EDIT: Two people posted at same time. So I responded to the wrong person.
 
stonerblue said:
Damocles said:
stonerblue said:
Oh good, another fucking royal leech.

Royal expenses dont go up and down as they are born and die, and their cost is 15% of the profits of the land they own. The keen mathematicians out there might realise that 15 is actually a smaller number than 100 and might wonder if the entire Royal budget is 15% then where does 85% go to you?

It goes into your pocket.

They are a self sufficient corporation. You are leeching off of them.

Amazing how many people seemingly obsessed with Royal expenses dont actually know anything about Royal expenses

Dunno how you work that out either.

he has the Damocles calculator, theres only one in the world like it.

It can deliver all sorts of fairy tales that some people even believe
 

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