World Cup Seedings

foetus said:
I hope Australia draws Italy so we have a chance of revenge against those cheating *****.

I wouldn't mind England too. Beating you in a world cup would top an Ashes series win imo.
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That's almost as funny as you ozzies calling us Poms... Err, its actually your ancestors that were Poms, therefore you are Poms by association. ;-)
 
So England could end up with a group of Brazil, Holland, Mexico and England. Were fucked if that comes out. On the other hand we could get Switzerland, Equador and Iran. Seems the french cnut has had his influence over proceedings.
 
willipp said:
So England could end up with a group of Brazil, Holland, Mexico and England. Were fucked if that comes out. On the other hand we could get Switzerland, Equador and Iran. Seems the french cnut has had his influence over proceedings.
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Yeah, all depends which European nation is removed from Pot 4, if it's one of the "bigger" ones, like Italy, Holland, England or France then the potential for a really tough group is greater, if it's Greece, Russia, Bosnia etc that are removed from pot 2 that chance is lessened.

The easiest it could be, realistically, is for England to get Switzerland, Algeria and Honduras. A group containing Brazil, Italy, England and USA would be an absolute stinker.
 
Matty said:
willipp said:
So England could end up with a group of Brazil, Holland, Mexico and England. Were fucked if that comes out. On the other hand we could get Switzerland, Equador and Iran. Seems the french cnut has had his influence over proceedings.
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Yeah, all depends which European nation is removed from Pot 4, if it's one of the "bigger" ones, like Italy, Holland, England or France then the potential for a really tough group is greater, if it's Greece, Russia, Bosnia etc that are removed from pot 2 that chance is lessened.

The easiest it could be, realistically, is for England to get Switzerland, Algeria and Honduras. A group containing Brazil, Italy, England and USA would be an absolute stinker.
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I guess it depends if you want a few big games. I remember last WC we played Algeria i think and drew 0-0 and the atmosphere in the boozers and around the country was shocking. A few other pretty low key games and it felt like the WC never got going. No atmosphere in the boozer against teams like Algeria or Honduras. Get a good game against Holland, Argentina or France and should get everyone well up for it. Then again we could well lose all 3 and go home after the groups.
 
Its all so corrupt and stupid. Is it really that big a deal if you get two Euro team in the same group ot two South American teams in the same group?? Why dont you just put the lowest ranked team in Pot 4 in Pot 2????

WE WANT ENGLAND!!! WE WANT ENGLAND!!!! WE WANT ENGLAND!!!!!
 
Frank the Yank said:
Its all so corrupt and stupid. Is it really that big a deal if you get two Euro team in the same group ot two South American teams in the same group?? Why dont you just put the lowest ranked team in Pot 4 in Pot 2????
WE WANT ENGLAND!!! WE WANT ENGLAND!!!! WE WANT ENGLAND!!!!!
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Because that would mean putting France in Pot 2, which they don't want to happen!

It's like qualifying for World Cup 2010 in South Africa. Prior to qualifying, and all through qualifying, teams in Europe were told that, from the 9 groups, the 8 best 2nd place teams would need to go to a playoff (with the 9th best team missing out) and that those 8 second place teams would be put into an open draw, with no seeding whatsoever. Come the end of qualifying and it turns out France (who had been runner up in 2006) and Portugal had ballsed up and finished behind Serbia and Denmark respectively in their groups so were in the playoffs. FIFA couldn't run the risk of allowing a tie to contain 2 out of Bosnia/Rep Of Ireland/Ukraine or, heaven forbid, France v Portugal to occur, so they changed the rules prior to the playoff draw and seeded the top 4 based on FIFA coefficient (which, by happy coincidence, meant that France, Portugal, Greece and Russia were now seeded and couldn't meet each other).

They didn't make the same mistake for 2014 qualifying and had the playoff as seeded based on FIFA coefficiant from the start (this almost shot them in the foot as France performed so terribly over the last couple of years that they ended up unseeded!).

It's all a fix to ensure the best nations from a financial perspective qualify. Why else do you allow the 5th best South American side (6th best really as Brazil didn't need to qualify) to play the 5th best Asian side (who are always going to be garbage) in a playoff to see who qualifies, as well as allowing the Oceana winner (nailed on to be New Zealand now Australia are "Asian") to play the 4th best North American side (who should really have been someone like Costa Rica/Honduras but this time ended up being Mexico!) if not to ensure that those countries with a bigger football following have more chance to qualify?!
 
Matty said:
Frank the Yank said:
Its all so corrupt and stupid. Is it really that big a deal if you get two Euro team in the same group ot two South American teams in the same group?? Why dont you just put the lowest ranked team in Pot 4 in Pot 2????
WE WANT ENGLAND!!! WE WANT ENGLAND!!!! WE WANT ENGLAND!!!!!
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Because that would mean putting France in Pot 2, which they don't want to happen!

It's like qualifying for World Cup 2010 in South Africa. Prior to qualifying, and all through qualifying, teams in Europe were told that, from the 9 groups, the 8 best 2nd place teams would need to go to a playoff (with the 9th best team missing out) and that those 8 second place teams would be put into an open draw, with no seeding whatsoever. Come the end of qualifying and it turns out France (who had been runner up in 2006) and Portugal had ballsed up and finished behind Serbia and Denmark respectively in their groups so were in the playoffs. FIFA couldn't run the risk of allowing a tie to contain 2 out of Bosnia/Rep Of Ireland/Ukraine or, heaven forbid, France v Portugal to occur, so they changed the rules prior to the playoff draw and seeded the top 4 based on FIFA coefficient (which, by happy coincidence, meant that France, Portugal, Greece and Russia were now seeded and couldn't meet each other).

They didn't make the same mistake for 2014 qualifying and had the playoff as seeded based on FIFA coefficiant from the start (this almost shot them in the foot as France performed so terribly over the last couple of years that they ended up unseeded!).

It's all a fix to ensure the best nations from a financial perspective qualify. Why else do you allow the 5th best South American side (6th best really as Brazil didn't need to qualify) to play the 5th best Asian side (who are always going to be garbage) in a playoff to see who qualifies, as well as allowing the Oceana winner (nailed on to be New Zealand now Australia are "Asian") to play the 4th best North American side (who should really have been someone like Costa Rica/Honduras but this time ended up being Mexico!) if not to ensure that those countries with a bigger football following have more chance to qualify?!
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And a lot of us in Ireland would tell you they did a lot more than seed that bloody draw. Still think getting Estonia last year was a bone thrown to shut us up.
 
Would much rather be in pot 4 than pot 2, but all this fuss about the draw is quite annoying. SSN milking it as only they know how, and yet we all know it is going to end up being three hours of Sepp Blatter blowing his own trumpet followed by two terrified celebs pulling out little shiny balls one by one with absolutely no magnets or trickery involved. At all.

Here's my prediction:

 
bluetonium said:
Would much rather be in pot 4 than pot 2, but all this fuss about the draw is quite annoying. SSN milking it as only they know how, and yet we all know it is going to end up being three hours of Sepp Blatter blowing his own trumpet followed by two terrified celebs pulling out little shiny balls one by one with absolutely no magnets or trickery involved. At all.

Here's my prediction:

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Bloody hell, give us the group of death why dont you.
 
I'm loving the Aussies and Yanks on here going on about beating England.

Listen, we know we're shite compared to years gone by. We're never going to win the World Cup or the Euros. However, the only way either the Aussies or Yanks would get a result off us is if one of two things happened;

1) We play shite and a howler allows you to score like the equaliser for Team US and A at the last World Cup
2) We play an understrength team in a shit friendly at somewhere like Upton Park and the Aussies treat it like a World Cup final.

Otherwise, we'd wipe the floor with either of you.
 
bluetonium said:
Would much rather be in pot 4 than pot 2, but all this fuss about the draw is quite annoying. SSN milking it as only they know how, and yet we all know it is going to end up being three hours of Sepp Blatter blowing his own trumpet followed by two terrified celebs pulling out little shiny balls one by one with absolutely no magnets or trickery involved. At all.

Here's my prediction:

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Good draw so far.
foetus said:
I hope Australia draws Italy so we have a chance of revenge against those cheating *****.
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You don't know how much i enjoyed that match and at least you lost against the world cup winners! :D
 
citykev28 said:
I'm loving the Aussies and Yanks on here going on about beating England.

Listen, we know we're shite compared to years gone by. We're never going to win the World Cup or the Euros. However, the only way either the Aussies or Yanks would get a result off us is if one of two things happened;

1) We play shite and a howler allows you to score like the equaliser for Team US and A at the last World Cup
2) We play an understrength team in a shit friendly at somewhere like Upton Park and the Aussies treat it like a World Cup final.

Otherwise, we'd wipe the floor with either of you.
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We still want you!!!! The last two times (only two times) we have had you in the World Cup, what happened??? Who won the group in 2010??? Would much rather play England form Pot 4 than most of those teams. Would rathe rplay your lot than Russia, Italy, Holland, or Portugal.<br /><br />-- Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:19 pm --<br /><br />
citykev28 said:
I'm loving the Aussies and Yanks on here going on about beating England.

Listen, we know we're shite compared to years gone by. We're never going to win the World Cup or the Euros. However, the only way either the Aussies or Yanks would get a result off us is if one of two things happened;

1) We play shite and a howler allows you to score like the equaliser for Team US and A at the last World Cup
2) We play an understrength team in a shit friendly at somewhere like Upton Park and the Aussies treat it like a World Cup final.

Otherwise, we'd wipe the floor with either of you.
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I dont think Engladn are good enough to wipe the floor with any halfway decent team. Maybe your lot could thrash Mexico LOL!!!!
 
You finished 1st in the group during England's worst ever showing at a World Cup when the team were booed off the pitch and the squad was divided by internal politics.

The one in 1958 is widely acknowledged as a complete fluke. Your women would give us a better game than the shower of shite you have as a team. David bastard Beckham, who was overrated during his hey day was head and shoulders above your league when his legs were gone. The MLS is a footballers graveyard akin to Qatar.
 
It was 1950 when the USA shocked your lot and, guess what, it was in BRAZIL!!!!! Newsflash our best players DO NOT even play in MLS. Oh my it was fun on here 4 years ago!!!
 
bluetonium said:
Would much rather be in pot 4 than pot 2, but all this fuss about the draw is quite annoying. SSN milking it as only they know how, and yet we all know it is going to end up being three hours of Sepp Blatter blowing his own trumpet followed by two terrified celebs pulling out little shiny balls one by one with absolutely no magnets or trickery involved. At all.

Here's my prediction:

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I would love to see us in that group, i can't see us getting through the group stages anyway and it would be great to see us up against Zabba, Aguero and Balo.
 
Frank the Yank said:
It was 1950 when the USA shocked your lot and, guess what, it was in BRAZIL!!!!! Newsflash our best players DO NOT even play in MLS. Oh my it was fun on here 4 years ago!!!
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My mistake. I get mixed up with all the World Cups we've been in. The only one we've missed in my lifetime was the one given to a country with no pedigree and little interest in football. Kind of like the decision to give it to Qatar.
 
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