WW1 medal finding family of owner

[henrythedogcity]

Have a WW1 medal on the side it has 1454 PTE J JACKSON MANCH R
I know he served in Gallipoli but died in Colwin Bay in 1917 aged just 23.
I also found out he's buried in southern cemetery Manchester.
I would love to be able to find his living relatives and give them the medal any help in doing this would be appreciated.

 

[mexico1970]

Here's his gravestone at Southern Cemetery mate.

 

[Gremlin]

You could try the Manchester Regiment Museum:

Museum of the Manchester Regiment

Welcome to the Museum of the Manchester Regiment. The Museum tells the story of generations of Manchester Regiment soldiers through two hundred years of service from 1758 until 1958.

www.tameside.gov.uk

They may not have details of current relatives but they will certainly know about his service.

 

[henrythedogcity]

Here's his gravestone at Southern Cemetery mate.

View attachment 52267

Yes I've seen that ...just tried the Regiment museum but its temporarily closed.
Maybe I'm chasing a lost cause when you consider how long ago it was but you never know.

 

[Indaparkside]

Have a WW1 medal on the side it has 1454 PTE J JACKSON MANCH R
I know he served in Gallipoli but died in Colwin Bay in 1917 aged just 23.
I also found out he's buried in southern cemetery Manchester.
I would love to be able to find his living relatives and give them the medal any help in doing this would be appreciated.

Colwyn

 

[henrythedogcity]

Colwyn

sorry

 

[bluesmith]

Yes I've seen that ...just tried the Regiment museum but its temporarily closed.
Maybe I'm chasing a lost cause when you consider how long ago it was but you never know.

Assume you have seen the comment below that picture on flickr, possible worth sending them a message although its 12 years since the comment?

 

[henrythedogcity]

Assume you have seen the comment below that picture on flickr, possible worth sending them a message although its 12 years since the comment? View attachment 52271

Yes I sent a message but like you say it's 12 years ago

 

[laserblue]

Apart from City my other passion is for military history research and I've dug out the following.

John Jackson enlisted in the 7th (Territorial) Battalion Manchester Regiment aged 17 years 9 months at Manchester 8/1/1912. Born Newtown, Montgomeryshire but lived on Mauldeth Road, Withington. He was a cabinet maker employed in his father's business at the same address. He entered the Gallipoli theatre 6/5/1915. He contracted a severe bout of dysentery there 29/8/1915 and was invalided back to the UK where he was admitted to Salisbury Infirmary.

His father was John Jackson and his mother Anna. He married Annie Mabel Ashcroft at Chorlton 18/3/1913.

He was discharged medically unfit for further service 8/3/1916 and was awarded a Silver War Badge because of sickness invalidity. (These were issued to men discharged because of wounds or sickness so that when seen in civvies people would know they'd served honourably in the forces and avoided the 'white feather' taunts). He was also awarded the 1914-15 Star, British War Medal and Victory Medal but these would have been issued posthumously, presumably to his widow.

He died of debility as a result of dysentery 9/9/1917 aged 23 as shown on his gravestone. He left £7 to his widow.

Further research may be difficult because he had a very common name but at least you have something to work on. Which one of his medals do you have?

 

[JRockBlues]

Yes I sent a message but like you say it's 12 years ago

Someone on twitter with same name and using same picture for avatar who looks to be still active-ish (tweets from May) may be worth a go if you don't get anything back.

 

[henrythedogcity]

Apart from City my other passion is for military history research and I've dug out the following.

John Jackson enlisted in the 7th (Territorial) Battalion Manchester Regiment aged 17 years 9 months at Manchester 8/1/1912. Born Newtown, Montgomeryshire but lived on Mauldeth Road, Withington. He was a cabinet maker employed in his father's business at the same address. He entered the Gallipoli theatre 6/5/1915. He contracted a severe bout of dysentery there 29/8/1915 and was invalided back to the UK where he was admitted to Salisbury Infirmary.

His father was John Jackson and his mother Anna. He married Annie Mabel Ashcroft at Chorlton 18/3/1913.

He was discharged medically unfit for further service 8/3/1916 and was awarded a Silver War Badge because of sickness invalidity. (These were issued to men discharged because of wounds or sickness so that when seen in civvies people would know they'd served honourably in the forces and avoided the 'white feather' taunts). He was also awarded the 1914-15 Star, British War Medal and Victory Medal but these would have been issued posthumously, presumably to his widow.

He died of debility as a result of dysentery 9/9/1917 aged 23 as shown on his gravestone. He left £7 to his widow.

Further research may be difficult because he had a very common name but at least you have something to work on. Which one of his medals do you have?

That's wonderful how did you manage that I think it's a general service medal with his details on the edge I've tried to post a picture but it won't let me for some reason.

 

[henrythedogcity]

Someone on twitter with same name and using same picture for avatar who looks to be still active-ish (tweets from May) may be worth a go if you don't get anything back.

Unfortunately I'm not on twitter.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Have a WW1 medal on the side it has 1454 PTE J JACKSON MANCH R
I know he served in Gallipoli but died in Colwin Bay in 1917 aged just 23.
I also found out he's buried in southern cemetery Manchester.
I would love to be able to find his living relatives and give them the medal any help in doing this would be appreciated.

The British Army would find them, send an email. Lovely thing to have

 

[metalblue]

That's wonderful how did you manage that I think it's a general service medal with his details on the edge I've tried to post a picture but it won't let me for some reason.

It’ll either be shaped like a star (called the star, there were 2 versions of this) or a silver round (British war medal) or a bronze/brass round (victory medal)

 

[laserblue]

That's wonderful how did you manage that I think it's a general service medal with his details on the edge I've tried to post a picture but it won't let me for some reason.

I have subscriptions to Findmypast and Ancestry and know what to look for and where to look for it. Sometimes info isn't in the 'right' place but has been misfiled by the National Archives and I know where info shouldn't be but sometimes is.

If the naming's on the edge it's not the Star because the naming's on the reverse of those. So it's either the silver BWM or the bronze Victory Medal.

 

[henrythedogcity]

It’ll either be shaped like a star (called the star, there were 2 versions of this) or a silver round (British war medal) or a bronze/brass round (victory medal)

It's the silver round one

 

[henrythedogcity]

I have subscriptions to Findmypast and Ancestry and know what to look for and where to look for it. Sometimes info isn't in the 'right' place but has been misfiled by the National Archives and I know where info shouldn't be but sometimes is.

If the naming's on the edge it's not the Star because the naming's on the reverse of those. So it's either the silver BWM or the bronze Victory Medal.

It's the BWM

 

[malg]

Yes I've seen that ...just tried the Regiment museum but its temporarily closed.
Maybe I'm chasing a lost cause when you consider how long ago it was but you never know.

The Army Personnel Centre in Glasgow would know

 

[normskih]

I have subscriptions to Findmypast and Ancestry and know what to look for and where to look for it. Sometimes info isn't in the 'right' place but has been misfiled by the National Archives and I know where info shouldn't be but sometimes is.

If the naming's on the edge it's not the Star because the naming's on the reverse of those. So it's either the silver BWM or the bronze Victory Medal.

I have a subscription to Ancestry, is having one to Find My Past worth the subscription fee also? Found my Grandads WW1 record, however we still have some of his original discharge documents but what amazed me was my maternal Great Grandad was also in WW1 in the Manchesters, know a little about him but not much. If it’s worth getting Find My Past for more insight, I will.

 

[laserblue]

I have a subscription to Ancestry, is having one to Find My Past worth the subscription fee also? Found my Grandads WW1 record, however we still have some of his original discharge documents but what amazed me was my maternal Great Grandad was also in WW1 in the Manchesters, know a little about him but not much. If it’s worth getting Find My Past for more insight, I will.

There's a certain amount of overlap but for WW1 research Ancestry is probably better. FMP is better for earlier periods. My main interest in the late Victorian period and FMP has the service papers and other details for that period that Ancestry largely lacks.