In the current lot of midfielders i dont think anyone is capable of doing the job for.us which.Yaya does,major change.in playing style will also be.required.MeatHunterrr said:We will have to replace him anyways hes 31 now and sooner or later we will have to look for replacements for this dickpikku said:I really don't want him to leave,whom will we replace him with,almost an impossible task that..:(
Rolee said:Marvin said:As fans we don't really know what's going on until months later, and even then you get a biased version of eventsBillyShears said:Like I said to the last guy who tried to use last year and the year before as a way to excuse this garbage ... Toure's agent put not just the club but it's owners on blast with his comments since the season ended. I for one don't give a shit about how good a player he is, as a group of supporters our loyalties should lie with Sheikh Mansour and co.
This has shades of Mancini/Tevez/Balotelli all over it and the lesson those three learned is that for Abu Dhabi perception and image is as important as talent.
If we have learned anything about Tevez, and Mancini, maybe it's not to jump up and down
I'm not going to join in with the hang him and flog him herd whilst I don't know what is going on.
Spot on, exactly where I'm at in all of this.
I find the hissy fits from City fans as pathetic as Seluk to be honest.
bluesoup said:Just maybe he wants to move to France and it was his wish all along. Yaya and his family are French speaking so Paris is a lure.
Matty said:If Yaya is to leave this summer his value will never be higher. We'll get a huge sum of money for him (only tempered slightly by his age). Put it this way, if David Luiz is worth £40m then how much is Yaya Toure worth (and, at 27, it's not as if Luiz is a youngster).
NipHolmes said:I don't understand how anyone can back his case now. No matter how highly I rate him, no matter how grateful I am for his efforts in a blue shirt, no matter how many times I've screamed his name in jubilation, it all counts for nothing in my opinion of the predicament we are now in.
Fact of the matter is he's been totally disrespectful to the club as a whole. It's been handled poorly and his silence is deafening.
For me, I'm happy to cash in and replace with Vidal or Fabregas. It makes sense from an age point of view and both players are world class. All is not lost without Yaya, he's astoundingly good as a CM but Hamann was right calling him a liability because he does leave us open. I'm happy to see us replace him with a CM as stated or the team go 4-3-3 with Fernando, Fernandinho and a centralised Silva. Jovetic on the left, Nasri or Navas on the right with Kun being our main man. I actually think this would suit us better in big games.
No point pretending things haven't been said or spinning the context, Yaya has been lacking any respect and dignity in the whole process and if we can get 40-50m for him as a 31 yr old with 2 years left at top level in this league I think it's a no brainer. We will have won two cups and two leagues with him at the club, pocket 15m profit, it's a very good signing and has benefited the club no end.
Bye Yaya, it's been emotional.
♣♣♣♣♣moomba said:bluesoup said:Just maybe he wants to move to France and it was his wish all along. Yaya and his family are French speaking so Paris is a lure.
I have no problem if he wants to do that.
Submit a transfer request, lose your loyalty bonus, talk to Txiki and I'm sure we'd do our best to accommodate him.
Going about it all wrong at the moment, and for me Yaya is 100% responsible for that.
blueinsa said:tolmie's hairdoo said:blueinsa said:31 and 3 years left on our biggest contract with clubs all over Europe that would move heaven and Earth to snap him up makes him our biggest bargaining chip and Txiki has previous of moving out players at the so called top of their game.
Getting rid of Yaya now makes so much sense from a FFP stance.
I tend to agree, although I also believe it makes sense, irrespective of FFPR.
You always sell at the peak, more so, when they are 31 and break convention in terms of asking price.
Yaya is a statement signing for any club.
What City would have to do is ensure our replacement was of equal statement, at least in terms of worldwide recognition.
Transfer fee and wages saved would certainly allow us to replace him with an equally world class talent and that's why I don't give two shits either way.
Players come and go and yes he has played a huge part in our success but his leaving wont stop us as a club going on to the next level.
I used to be a massive Froch fan, I was at Trent FM arena when he beat Dirrel and followed him ever since national level. But he turned into a prize cock when Eddie Hearn signed him from Hennessey. Yaya has gone the same route, he's gone from a talented, affable and grounded guy to an arrogant prat people don't want to see or listen to. Regardless of talent, it's a prerequisite of a sportsman to be as humble and grounded as possible to succeed, media and rival fans always give more credit that way whereas arrogant people are detested and people only want to see them fail. Take Suarez for example, I truly detest him, would love to see him never step on our island again, yet he's one of the top 5 strikers in the world, and everybody hates him, lesson 101 in how not to act.ForzaMancini said:Would love it if Yaya did force a move in the Summer and he was utter crap for whoever he signed for. Arrogant bastard, has any other player ever said "my statistics are incredible" ? Can't imagine even Ronaldo would put it that bluntly.
prestonibbo_mcfc said:Rolee said:Marvin said:As fans we don't really know what's going on until months later, and even then you get a biased version of events
If we have learned anything about Tevez, and Mancini, maybe it's not to jump up and down
I'm not going to join in with the hang him and flog him herd whilst I don't know what is going on.
Spot on, exactly where I'm at in all of this.
I find the hissy fits from City fans as pathetic as Seluk to be honest.
And your sanctimonious rants are really starting to grate with me.
Correct.billymumphrey said:Lancet Fluke said:billymumphrey said:What sort of defence is it but justifying your own poor behaviour by saying "At least it's not as bad as xyz..." - I'll tell you, a pretty poor one. When you display that sort of logic then it quickly descends into a race to the bottom in which no one wins.
You're saying there's only one person at fault - however the only person responsible for their own actions is themselves. Not Ya Ya. Just because he's acting like a right pork chop doesn't mean you have to. Is it that hard to measure your response rather than saying I hope the **** rots in the EDS or other choice statements?
Well first of all I don't think I personally have responded in the ways you have mentioned although I have definitely voiced my displeasure at the way he has behaved but I like to think I have generally done it in a fairly measured way. But I can completely understand why people on here are furious with Yaya and I find it absolutely bizarre that in all of this, in everything that has happened, you have come on here to knock supporters who love the club and who have come on a forum to vent which is effectively utterly harmless. Some people might say you're a bit of a sanctimonious arsehole who is focusing on the wrong problem. Obviously not me though, I'm more measured than that.
So let me get this right.
People are disappointed by Toure's actions - and they have a right to vent. And according to you they're entitled to carry on and say whatever they want.
I'm disappointed by these peoples reactions - but I shouldn't voice my opinion.
And I'm the sanctimonious arsehole?
blueinsa said:BillyShears said:tolmie's hairdoo said:Not returning calls. I think he has gone.
Don't believe we would hear anything definitive now until after the World Cup.
We would not want to telegraph our attempts to bring in a replacement with money burning a hole in our pocket.
Toure and his camp have been a disgrace in all this.
The ultimate decision is now with Txiki, not Khaldoon.
Not returning calls ?
If he's gone awol/into hiding with respect to our club's attempts to reach him to talk about this - then i can only agree with you. He's gone. As I said yesterday, Pellegrini and Txiki both have history for removing "big" players who they see as a problem. Pellers did it with Riquelme ... Txiki with Eto'o, Deco, Ronaldinho.
Yaya and his camp can fucking do one.
Some just don't get it still mate. Players come and go, they always have and they always will. There is no loyalty in football anymore and that goes for the club as well in that we will fuck off players we don't want.
I still think this is a perfect storm in so much as we may also want rid and Yaya and his agent have got wind?
Robinho's Subbuteo said:blueinsa said:BillyShears said:Not returning calls ?
If he's gone awol/into hiding with respect to our club's attempts to reach him to talk about this - then i can only agree with you. He's gone. As I said yesterday, Pellegrini and Txiki both have history for removing "big" players who they see as a problem. Pellers did it with Riquelme ... Txiki with Eto'o, Deco, Ronaldinho.
Yaya and his camp can fucking do one.
Some just don't get it still mate. Players come and go, they always have and they always will. There is no loyalty in football anymore and that goes for the club as well in that we will fuck off players we don't want.
I still think this is a perfect storm in so much as we may also want rid and Yaya and his agent have got wind?
I think Zab would say different.
pikku said:I really don't want him to leave,whom will we replace him with,almost an impossible task that..:(
TheMightyQuinn said:Robinho's Subbuteo said:blueinsa said:Some just don't get it still mate. Players come and go, they always have and they always will. There is no loyalty in football anymore and that goes for the club as well in that we will fuck off players we don't want.
I still think this is a perfect storm in so much as we may also want rid and Yaya and his agent have got wind?
I think Zab would say different.
Maybe, I'd like to think so but if Zab was unhappy I'm sure we'd see a different side to him and realise that all players are much of a muchness when it comes to being human beings. I really would like to think Zab is different but you know...