Yet more bile... this time from the Evening Standard

Will said:
Inevitable whether united win or not this year, they can't keep up over the next few years.


Blackburn said this in 94, Arse after that, and Chelski under Abramovich after that. The fact is, different clubs come along and set new challenges and so far, it's only taken United a season or two to adjust, and then overtake the new pretenders. Even when United are in transition, as they are now, they seem to be too good for everyone else.

How much have City spent? I've seen £400 million, £500 million, £600 million. Whichever it is, how much more money will it take? Another £200 million? £400 million? Who will they buy that will want to come and would make the difference? Messi? Not a chance. Ronaldo? Doubt it. Ibrahimovic? Possibly. Benzema?

By definition, the kind of player attracted to City's billions are not necessarily the kind of player you need to mold into a team capable of winning titles year in, year out.

The manager is the key position, obviously. RM has shown he's not the man for the job. Not tactically, not in terms of man-management, media-management nor in the vital area of spotting a player who will help bring sustained success to a club.

If City can land Mourinho, invest the probable further £200 million he'd want to bring in half of Real Madrid, then City will almost certainly win the title within the next couple of years. Apart from Fergie, I doubt there's another man on planet who could make City the best team in England. And that would only be until Jose gets bored and seeks another challenge.

And it looks like he wants the United job anyway.

You can't buy sustained success. Blackburn and Chelsea are proof of that.


Scum seem to have managed it over a few decades....
Do one, rag
 
Will said:
Yes Will you are quite right, yoonitid made there money by being succcesfull, not by launching themselves on the stock market which of course is what allowed Uncle Malcolm to buy you out and load you up with debt.


This would have been a good point. If we hadn't been the most successful club 'before' the Glazers came along.



But of course it is better to be in debt to a Johnny Foreigner than being given money by one isn't it.


Rather not be in debt at all. And Jonny foreigner's money has its price. 'The Etihad' stadium?

And I don't think City's money is sustainable. The Etihad looked about 2/3 full for the Sunderland game, one where the team is chasing its first title for decades. How will you get around the FFP rules when they come in? Not by cheating and corruption, surely.[/quote]


Forget it \; You can SMELL the fear !!!
 
'Longlasting success has to be earned not bought' ..Thats the classic get out line..

Probably the most ironic statement any rag can ever quote...

But they are so thick as to not get it.
 
philiph20 said:
He probably classes the thousands of morons in Manchester who watch Sky in their local proudly wearing their AON tops, mouthing off yet have NEVER even been to Old Trafford as fans, i class them as lemmings who always take the easy option in life and feel the need to belong to something successful in order to validate their existence.
best of the day totally spot on
 
Nicky D said:
Perhaps Will has also forgotten about the abolition of shared gate receipts in the early 80s that would grant big city teams like United an undeniable advantage over the likes of Forest, Norwich etc.

But most importantly as many have observed the stock exchange flotation did so much to 'earn' (ie give United a grossly unfair advantage) them money is now so hilariously the reason for their foreign ownership and massive debts.
That was one thing that always made me chuckle when their laughably preposterous so-called 'ultras' from the 'Manchester Education Committee' (presumably from the remedial class/'special school' division) were protesting against the Glazer purchase.
A bunch of fat, bald old men in cheap and nasty black coats, barging into Vodafone and Nike shops in town and attempting to intimidate a handful of teenage shop girls by shouting "United Not For Sale" in their faces.
Failing to accept the cold, hard fact that by floating on the stock market and enjoying the huge riches and commercial advantage over their rivals that this provided, "United" were indeed "for sale" from 9am to 5pm every working day from Monday to Friday.
These were presumably the same self-important and deluded oxygen thieves who eventually ran away from the battle to set up their own poxy little Happy Shopper Rag franchise.
 
laserblue said:
Will said:
You can't buy sustained success. Blackburn and Chelsea are proof of that.

you're overlooking the fact that that's precisely what united have done.

Not withstanding which, Chelsea have bought sustained success!! What is it, 3 league titles, 3 FA Cups, 2 Carling Cups in the last 10 years or so? OK, no domestic trophy this year, but they're in the semi finals of the Chimps League. Looks like sustained success to me. God I fucking hate rags. There isn't one that isn't a ****
 
City appear to be falling apart. The evaporation of their expansive style combined with embarrassing infighting, the whirlwind of controversy that is Mario Balotelli and the humiliating climbdown over Carlos Tevez paints City as nothing more than a bunch of money-grabbing mercenaries.

Sounds like something they say over on the ragcafe. How was this rant allowed to be published, it doesn't even offer a flip-side to the arguement, utter bile and Bias.
 
But they have ALWAYS played a style of football that gave them the biggest crowds?
How come then in 80 years of football at Maine Road, the smallest league attendance was at manure's game against Swindon 8,015

Will, dont let the facts get in the way of your propaganda, but then of course your club wouldnt have kicked Harry Gregg out of his house after the air disaster, and your club wouldnt have given cuntona more for appearing in a fundraiser for the families of the deceased and survivors than those that it was organised to help, but yet he is still idolised by the rag army
 
law74 said:
But they have ALWAYS played a style of football that gave them the biggest crowds?
How come then in 80 years of football at Maine Road, the smallest league attendance was at manure's game against Swindon 8,015

Will, dont let the facts get in the way of your propaganda, but then of course your club wouldnt have kicked Harry Gregg out of his house after the air disaster, and your club wouldnt have given cuntona more for appearing in a fundraiser for the families of the deceased and survivors than those that it was organised to help, but yet he is still idolised by the rag army

Eh ?
 
bluwes said:
law74 said:
But they have ALWAYS played a style of football that gave them the biggest crowds?
How come then in 80 years of football at Maine Road, the smallest league attendance was at manure's game against Swindon 8,015

Will, dont let the facts get in the way of your propaganda, but then of course your club wouldnt have kicked Harry Gregg out of his house after the air disaster, and your club wouldnt have given cuntona more for appearing in a fundraiser for the families of the deceased and survivors than those that it was organised to help, but yet he is still idolised by the rag army

Eh ?

United have played home games at Maine Road.
 
coleridge said:
west didsblue said:
coleridge said:
Anyway, I noted the magic lamp reference. As I said in September 2008, the pro-zionist media are apoplectic at the very idea of 'Arabs' owning one of the most successful clubs in the world. They've had to tone it down since the likes of Barca and Malaga got into bed with the Qataris, as has the whole of FIFA [allegedly, according to some, can't believe it myself, like].

However, it adds to the lazy and/or corrupt journo's vision of the world that Fergie is crowned every May. At the same time, no-one is allowed to comment on the religion of the Glaziers, or Roman for that matter [although I've heard the odd murmur in the press recently], or otherwise discuss where their money comes from.
Pro-zionist media???? Have you read the Guardian, watched the BBC or Sky recently. Who said no-ones allowed to comment on the religion of the Glazers or Roman - it's just not relevant. I don't want want to get into politics but you're talking shite.

As Chutzpah is the original art of talking shite, I'll bow to your in-depth knowledge and immense expertise. BTW West Didsbury is my spiritual home and a place of great tolerance. That's why your abusive post is so disappointing but, I suppose, that's the school holidays for you...
If you're interested in why I thought you were talking shite, which I suspect you're not, I suggest you start an off topic discussion about your opinions and provide some evidence to back them up. This thread is the wrong place to discuss this further.
BTW I suggest you look up Chutzpah in a dictionary. It's nothing to do with talking shite.
 
Manc in London said:
bluwes said:
law74 said:
But they have ALWAYS played a style of football that gave them the biggest crowds?
How come then in 80 years of football at Maine Road, the smallest league attendance was at manure's game against Swindon 8,015

Will, dont let the facts get in the way of your propaganda, but then of course your club wouldnt have kicked Harry Gregg out of his house after the air disaster, and your club wouldnt have given cuntona more for appearing in a fundraiser for the families of the deceased and survivors than those that it was organised to help, but yet he is still idolised by the rag army

Eh ?

United have played home games at Maine Road.

But that Swindon game wasn't one of them.

Better to point out that their lowest league crowd at Old Trafford was less than half our lowest league crowd at Maine Road.
 
west didsblue said:
coleridge said:
west didsblue said:
Pro-zionist media???? Have you read the Guardian, watched the BBC or Sky recently. Who said no-ones allowed to comment on the religion of the Glazers or Roman - it's just not relevant. I don't want want to get into politics but you're talking shite.

As Chutzpah is the original art of talking shite, I'll bow to your in-depth knowledge and immense expertise. BTW West Didsbury is my spiritual home and a place of great tolerance. That's why your abusive post is so disappointing but, I suppose, that's the school holidays for you...
If you're interested in why I thought you were talking shite, which I suspect you're not, I suggest you start an off topic discussion about your opinions and provide some evidence to back them up. This thread is the wrong place to discuss this further.
BTW I suggest you look up Chutzpah in a dictionary. It's nothing to do with talking shite.

My friend, I've had enough of this. I take you at your implied word that you are a true blue from my neck of the woods. Respect and move on. I offered an opinion and you insulted me. I'm already over it. As someone from a very serious Muslim family [not me, I don't practice], I have been brought up and went to school with many Jews in South Manchester [that's what they call themselves], some very good friends of mine, we've drunk, fought and pulled 'birds' together. We always disagree on Israel/Palestine but we just get in with it and focus on what we have in common. So should you. Life's too short. Peace and love.x
 

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