Zinchenko is no more prone to mis-passes than anyone else, and he won't be playing in the UCL later rounds anyway.
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- Thread starter Fallingbostel Blue
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Zinchenko is no more prone to mis-passes than anyone else, and he won't be playing in the UCL later rounds anyway.
Our defence can be got at, it is plain to see. Don't let the stats fool you. If you consider the possession we have each game then we shouldn't be conceding a lot of goals. What has been the major difference is we have a goalkeeper who can dig us out the shit to worst case scenario.
Actually neither Bravo nor Ederson officially get a clean sheet for the Liverpool game despite us keeping one, which is complete BS in my opinion.
Good quiz question though.
Our defence can be got at, it is plain to see. Don't let the stats fool you. If you consider the possession we have each game then we shouldn't be conceding a lot of goals. What has been the major difference is we have a goalkeeper who can dig us out the shit to worst case scenario.
Any defence that plays a high line like we do can be got at, we don't generally allow that to happen because the team has been excellent defensively this season.
Jordie
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Perfectly describes the people that are making them.Thing is, I can kind of see what people mean when they say it. City play with such a high line that when they lose the ball the defence is always exposed. It's the same kind of point when there's moaning about the tactical fouls - any team caught out high up the pitch will do that, but City by definition of how they play will be caught that way more often.
The Leicester game recently was a good example of that - although City romped home in the end, the speed of Leicester's breaks definitely caused City problems, and we know all too well that last season the slow full backs left City thoroughly open to conceding goals, albeit a keeper who saved one or two might have been a help.
So in a way, it's true, City can be got at, but you first have to get the ball of them, and then have to attack with real pace and precision when you do. But of course that's a nuanced position to take, which is why it's not that the comments are wrong, it's that they're grotesquely simplistic.
dachoosen1
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Our defence is the best it's been in a long time ota has come on leaps and bounds as has stones. Ederson and walker are world class, delph/ zinchenko have been very impressive at lb. Can't wait till we have Mendy back.
Fallingbostel Blue
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That's the point I am making we don't concede a lot of goals and Ederson has made the least amount of saves in the league this season.Our defence can be got at, it is plain to see. Don't let the stats fool you. If you consider the possession we have each game then we shouldn't be conceding a lot of goals. What has been the major difference is we have a goalkeeper who can dig us out the shit to worst case scenario.
Any defence that plays a high line like we do can be got at, we don't generally allow that to happen because the team has been excellent defensively this season.
We don't have a rock solid defence do we? We have a good defence but most of our defenders have a mistake in them, we are successful because of how we play football, retain the ball and attack, not because of our defence.
That's the point I am making we don't concede a lot of goals and Ederson has made the least amount of saves in the league this season.
That's because we have the ball 3/4 of the game, not because we are a solid unit.
We don't have a rock solid defence do we? We have a good defence but most of our defenders have a mistake in them, we are successful because of how we play football, retain the ball and attack, not because of our defence.
That's because we have the ball 3/4 of the game, not because we are a solid unit.
OK Tom, put any of our individual defenders in a defensive set up, do you still believe they have that mistake in them? or does the protection they have playing in that system mask their mistakes?
OK Tom, put any of our individual defenders in a defensive set up, do you still believe they have that mistake in them? or does the protection they have playing in that system mask their mistakes?
Absolutely, Our defenders aren't solid standard defenders, they shouldn't be either because of the way we play football. We don't have a solid centre back pairing, we make daft mistakes at the back. It isn't a bad thing either we just aren't as solid as the stats suggest for me, pretty misleading. When you get the champions playing as they did twice against us then we shouldn't be conceding chances/goals.