I didn't tell you anything. I asked a question and made a suggestion.
But honestly I have no idea why you or anyone else with a closed mind is even bothering to be on here.
You'll note for my umpteen posts that on several occasions I've said "fair point" or other such comment to someone suggesting an alternative view.
But some people are the equivalent of school children with hands over their ears saying "I'm not listening I'm listening I'm not listening". Well guess what, that's a bit tiresome after a while.
Still, everyone to their own and fortunately we have the ignore button with which we can filter out the dross, so either way I'm not fussed.
With trepidation that I may have been filtered....
I would be surprised if you cannot see from your posts that you appear to most to be an inner because you are nearly always picking arguement with every point an outer makes and countering it with reason to remain, which is fair enough.
The inners cannot give any assurances about anything, even Call me Dave's special deal, that still has to be ratified after we've voted, there is no guarantee it will stick, though it would be tremendously embarrassing if it was rejected. Similarly the outer do not know the detail of what will happen if we were to leave and that my chippy friend is a fact. All we can do is present suppositions and scenarios, and all the inners can do is give scare stories.
As I've posted earlier and been quite explicit, my main reasons for going are (in my opinion):-
1. Security, amongst other security and border control issues, I don't feel that expanding the EU to countries like Turkey is doing anything to secure Europe or making it a safer place.... Why are we letting them join (the fact they play in the CL and join in the Eurovision song contest does not count - I'd be happy to see them kicked out of both. They're a land mass of 5% in Europe 95% in Asia and a population of 75m... what is/are the benefit(s) of allowing Turkey to join?
2. Bureaucracy. We have a very inefficient unelected EU governance process. I don't like the fact that the real seat of power, the EU Comissioners are a government appointed, unelected leadership which directs and controls the EU parliament.
3. Economy. I do not like the fact that we are net contributors to the tune of £8,500 million pounds a year, that after our rebate and the reinvestment into the UK by the EU, our gross contribution is about £19,000 million pounds a year. For example if we wished to sustain a steel industry, we could from the £8.5 bn give£1m a day and still have £8,135m left to use at home. The problem here is once we save that money here is no guarantee that any particular party will reinvest it in the kind of industry and society that we all might wish for.
4. Immigration. I'm afraid that this island has finite resources and whilst we might like to be everyone's knight in shining armour we can't, sadly we dont have the infrastructure nor the finance to be that. It may sound tough and uncaring but it's not, it's reality. For example, the refugee/migrant children that we are now going to take from Europe is not the way to go. If they are desparate enough they will apply for asylum in the first country they come to, they don't. Furthermore, if the rumours being thrown around that children when they get to Europe are being raped and prostituted then I'm afraid that is a Europe that I do not wish to be part of.... Do you? Seriously?
There are many other issues I could attack, such as the Trade Agreements, TTIP, A European Army, to name but a few, but I'll let you counter these points before moving on. Everything above is fact, not speculation, not rumour but fact. Alone, these points are reason enough for me to wish to choose to leave!
