#31 | Ederson - 2020/21 Performances

[FromPollockToSilva]

Because he occasionally gets in the way of shots at goal?

He has a lower save percentage than Ederson, so that can't be it

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

The tactic of hitting it long for Phil to challenge for headers time and again was baffling, just giving possession away. If we had to hit long balls then push Rodri towards halfway and get a couple of players around him for the second ball.

 

[CmonCity92]

What goals are people saying he should have saved tonight exactly?? Defense was shambolic in front of him..

 

[SWP's back]

It's literally on the last page, there's only 2 keepers in the league with a higher shot percentage save rate

Percentage save rate is absolutely useless as a measure of a keeper on its own as it doesn’t take into account the quality of shots faced (xG).

 

[SWP's back]

He has a lower save percentage than Ederson, so that can't be it

See above.

Then listen to this:

‎The Athletic Football Tactics Podcast: The goalkeeping blind spot - why is it so hard to measure the performance of keepers? on Apple Podcasts

‎Show The Athletic Football Tactics Podcast, Ep The goalkeeping blind spot - why is it so hard to measure the performance of keepers? - 16 Mar 2021

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Shots save percentage is not remotely useless in assessing shot stopping per se.

 

[Don Karleone]

 

[Don Karleone]

For what it's worth, I do think he should save a few more than he does. Great achievement though.

 

[FromPollockToSilva]

See above.

Then listen to this:

‎The Athletic Football Tactics Podcast: The goalkeeping blind spot - why is it so hard to measure the performance of keepers? on Apple Podcasts

‎Show The Athletic Football Tactics Podcast, Ep The goalkeeping blind spot - why is it so hard to measure the performance of keepers? - 16 Mar 2021

podcasts.apple.com

Shots save percentage is not remotely useless in assessing shot stopping per se.

Do you have the xG stats?

 

[LongsightM13]

Just won the Golden Glove again. But yeah, moaners gonna moan

Ederson retains Premier League Golden Glove award

Ederson has won this season’s Premier League Coca-Cola Golden Glove award.

www.mancity.com

 

[ninjamonkey]

Percentage save rate is absolutely useless as a measure of a keeper on its own as it doesn’t take into account the quality of shots faced (xG).

Whilst I think expected goals is a largely bullshit stat I do agree with the principle of what you're saying that's why in that post I mentioned the fact that ederson actually faces fewer speculative shots than other keepers due to opponents struggling to have any meaningful possession in areas to shoot from.

He generally only has something to do when the odds are stacked against him being able to do something about it. If he makes half a dozen extra routine saves per game like most other keepers nobody even mentions him.

He had no chance with any of the 3 goals, the only thing he could have done he did which was save the shot that led to their third. It's unfortunate the rebound was kind to Brighton. He's getting nowhere near the first 2