Chance conversion for and against

[BlueAnorak]

And invariably it would make the lino's arm twitch and the flag to be raised whether our man was offside or not! Once the flag goes up the attack is doomed! I'd really like to see a mix of play, though. I think our possession football is a tad monotonous and a lot easier to defend, particularly if all defensive players stick to their task! It strikes me that defending the ball on the ground is easier than defending one in the air. Whenever you see a PL side v lower league the main option from the latter is to hoof it, and good PL defenders, unused to that tactic, find it troublesome.

This is my point.
If defenders only have to wory about one thing - i.e. stopping our player on the flank then it is relatively straight forward to school your defenders to try and stop it.

 

[Jefferson Airplane]

It's about space. We're an attacking, dominant, ball-keeping side which means the opponent has no choice but to sit deep and protect, leaving little space. The good teams (United / Liverpool) clearly do this better than the fodder teams (Stoke / Bournemouth). And the better teams are also more likely to make better use of their counter-attacking opportunities when they do get the ball and because we aren't a defensive side, we leave more space than they do. The thing is, 9 times out of 10 the way we play will be sufficient to win the game as proven this season. But we probably do need to manage games better when it's clear that Plan A might not be the wisest way to go.

 

[The Riot Club]

TBH I don’t think it’s fairly obvious, or at least I think there’s a fairly good starting point...

Most of those chances we’ve missed in those games are by Bernardo, Sterling,Sane, Silva, De Bruyne, Fernandinho... while Kun has been on the bench. I don’t think Pep appreciates the importance of having someone who can score goals consistently, making them himself, getting on the end of things and just adding that extra threat to defenders. He’s our highest ever goal scorer and we needed goals!! He needed more than 20 minutes!! And if he wasn’t fit then it just highlights that we should have had a third striker all season, someone who’s gifted in the area of putting chances away. Our midfielders have scored loads this season but have also missed a hell of a lot!

I think you've definitely identified one of the major reasons we miss so many - our only striker as good as those played by other top sides is nearly always sat on the fucking bench! It's criminal really, Pep has got so much right especially this season, but the fact he doesn't rate our record goalscorer and prefers to rely on us creating enough chances for our midfielders to score is wrong in my opinion.

Either he needs to play Aguero whenever he's fit, or if he really doesn't rate him, then buy a striker who is just as good like Salah, Kane or Lewandowski. All top teams need a focal point finisher, we don't play ours enough. If we did, or if we had Kane for example I think we'd have wrapped up the title already with over 100 goals and beaten Liverpool over two legs.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

It's about space. We're an attacking, dominant, ball-keeping side which means the opponent has no choice but to sit deep and protect, leaving little space. The good teams (United / Liverpool) clearly do this better than the fodder teams (Stoke / Bournemouth). And the better teams are also more likely to make better use of their counter-attacking opportunities when they do get the ball and because we aren't a defensive side, we leave more space than they do. The thing is, 9 times out of 10 the way we play will be sufficient to win the game as proven this season. But we probably do need to manage games better when it's clear that Plan A might not be the wisest way to go.

I wonder how many more seasons before I add those two teams to the favoured media few - Won't be long before I have to write the RagDipperArseHaringeyStokieCherryMeedya!

 

[Dewey6]

We’ve also had different defence combinations for weeks.

Every time the team sheet comes out it seems like a lottery who the back 3 will be so how are they supposed to have confidence with each other?

Mendy will make a huge difference with his pace next season which is why we’ve struggled with counter attacks so badly. Add to that Mendy and Laporte getting game time and the defence will settle.

Frustrating but hardly a crisis.

 

[argyle]

What's the shot to conversion rate for the whole season? Has there been a drop off in the last few games?

 

[tonea2003]

Rubbish. Instead of knocking the ball wide if a player saw Aguero spin a defender - he puts the ball over the top for Aguero to run onto.

no it isn't, your'e talking the exception rather than the rule, most teams set up to pack the defence and midfield trying to give us as little space in behind for the very reason you are talking

 

[I'm With Stupid]

There's been a bit of talk over the last 24 hours about how easily we tend to concede the few chances we give to opponents and how we waste a lot of chances for a properly top team. So I thought I'd take a closer look at the stats. And here they are (PL only to make if comparable).

The highest percentage of shots on target this season:

Man City 40.50%
Arsenal 39.26%
Chelsea 37.55%
West Ham 37.42%
Liverpool 36.80%
Man Utd 36.51%
Newcastle 34.66%
Leicester 34.50%
Tottenham 34.25%
Bournemouth 34.24%
Everton 33.12%
Stoke 33.04%
Burnley 32.82%
Huddersfield 30.91%
West Brom 30.30%
Palace 30.29%
Brighton 30.15%
Southampton 29.38%
Swansea 29.18%
Watford 28.13%

Percentage of shots resulting in a goal:

Man City 15.99%
Man Utd 14.65%
Leicester 14.04%
Liverpool 13.46%
West Ham 13.25%
Everton 12.34%
Arsenal 11.91%
Tottenham 11.79%
Watford 10.74%
Chelsea 10.34%
Bournemouth 10.17%
Swansea 10.12%
Burnley 9.60%
Newcastle 8.73%
Stoke 8.70%
Brighton 8.66%
Huddersfield 8.20%
Southampton 7.99%
Palace 7.93%
West Brom 7.88%

Not too bad. But how about the other end?

Average shots conceded per game:

Man City 6.3
Liverpool 7.4
Tottenham 8.7
Chelsea 10.1
Arsenal 10.8
Watford 11.2
Huddersfield 11.6
Man Utd 11.8
Crystal Palace 12.7
Newcastle 13
Southampton 13
Leicester 13.1
West Brom 13.5
Brighton 14.3
Swansea 14.5
Everton 14.5
Bournemouth 14.5
West Ham 14.6
Stoke 14.7
Burnley 15.3

Percentage of shots conceded resulting in a goal:
Burnley 5.72%
Man Utd 6.62%
Brighton 9.40%
Chelsea 9.59%
Swansea 9.70%
Tottenham 9.70%
Newcastle 9.86%
Leicester 10.73%
Everton 11.08%
Bournemouth 11.42%
West Brom 11.67%
Man City 11.90%
Southampton 12.02%
Crystal Palace 12.41%
West Ham 12.41%
Arsenal 12.44%
Stoke 12.99%
Huddersfield 14.11%
Liverpool 14.33%
Watford 15.96%

So it's pretty much what we'd expect. Our opponents don't get many chances against us, but they're more likely to be decent quality chances that they can put away.

But how does this compare to the last three games. Well here's the same stats for the last 3 games we played.

For
Shots: 51
On Target: 9 (17.65% compared to our usual 40.5%)
Goals: 3
% of shots leading to a goal: 5.88% (compared to our usual 15.99%)

Against
Shots: 19
On Target: 12 (63.16% compared to a usual 36.8% for Liverpool and 36.51% for Man Utd)
Goals: % of shots leading to a goal: 42.11% (compared to 11.9% for us defensively, 13.46% for Liverpool, and 14.65% for Man Utd)

So yeah, we completely fucked up at both ends of the pitch. But then we already knew that.

 

[SebastianBlue]

There's been a bit of talk over the last 24 hours about how easily we tend to concede the few chances we give to opponents and how we waste a lot of chances for a properly top team. So I thought I'd take a closer look at the stats. And here they are (PL only to make if comparable).

The highest percentage of shots on target this season:

Man City 40.50%
Arsenal 39.26%
Chelsea 37.55%
West Ham 37.42%
Liverpool 36.80%
Man Utd 36.51%
Newcastle 34.66%
Leicester 34.50%
Tottenham 34.25%
Bournemouth 34.24%
Everton 33.12%
Stoke 33.04%
Burnley 32.82%
Huddersfield 30.91%
West Brom 30.30%
Palace 30.29%
Brighton 30.15%
Southampton 29.38%
Swansea 29.18%
Watford 28.13%

Percentage of shots resulting in a goal:

Man City 15.99%
Man Utd 14.65%
Leicester 14.04%
Liverpool 13.46%
West Ham 13.25%
Everton 12.34%
Arsenal 11.91%
Tottenham 11.79%
Watford 10.74%
Chelsea 10.34%
Bournemouth 10.17%
Swansea 10.12%
Burnley 9.60%
Newcastle 8.73%
Stoke 8.70%
Brighton 8.66%
Huddersfield 8.20%
Southampton 7.99%
Palace 7.93%
West Brom 7.88%

Not too bad. But how about the other end?

Average shots conceded per game:

Man City 6.3
Liverpool 7.4
Tottenham 8.7
Chelsea 10.1
Arsenal 10.8
Watford 11.2
Huddersfield 11.6
Man Utd 11.8
Crystal Palace 12.7
Newcastle 13
Southampton 13
Leicester 13.1
West Brom 13.5
Brighton 14.3
Swansea 14.5
Everton 14.5
Bournemouth 14.5
West Ham 14.6
Stoke 14.7
Burnley 15.3

Percentage of shots conceded resulting in a goal:
Burnley 5.72%
Man Utd 6.62%
Brighton 9.40%
Chelsea 9.59%
Swansea 9.70%
Tottenham 9.70%
Newcastle 9.86%
Leicester 10.73%
Everton 11.08%
Bournemouth 11.42%
West Brom 11.67%
Man City 11.90%
Southampton 12.02%
Crystal Palace 12.41%
West Ham 12.41%
Arsenal 12.44%
Stoke 12.99%
Huddersfield 14.11%
Liverpool 14.33%
Watford 15.96%

So it's pretty much what we'd expect. Our opponents don't get many chances against us, but they're more likely to be decent quality chances that they can put away.

But how does this compare to the last three games. Well here's the same stats for the last 3 games we played.

For
Shots: 51
On Target: 9 (17.65% compared to our usual 40.5%)
Goals: 3
% of shots leading to a goal: 5.88% (compared to our usual 15.99%)

Against
Shots: 19
On Target: 12 (63.16% compared to a usual 36.8% for Liverpool and 36.51% for Man Utd)
Goals: % of shots leading to a goal: 42.11% (compared to 11.9% for us defensively, 13.46% for Liverpool, and 14.65% for Man Utd)

So yeah, we completely fucked up at both ends of the pitch. But then we already knew that.

A person after my own mind.

 

[Stoned Rose]

There's been a bit of talk over the last 24 hours about how easily we tend to concede the few chances we give to opponents and how we waste a lot of chances for a properly top team. So I thought I'd take a closer look at the stats. And here they are (PL only to make if comparable).

The highest percentage of shots on target this season:

Man City 40.50%
Arsenal 39.26%
Chelsea 37.55%
West Ham 37.42%
Liverpool 36.80%
Man Utd 36.51%
Newcastle 34.66%
Leicester 34.50%
Tottenham 34.25%
Bournemouth 34.24%
Everton 33.12%
Stoke 33.04%
Burnley 32.82%
Huddersfield 30.91%
West Brom 30.30%
Palace 30.29%
Brighton 30.15%
Southampton 29.38%
Swansea 29.18%
Watford 28.13%

Percentage of shots resulting in a goal:

Man City 15.99%
Man Utd 14.65%
Leicester 14.04%
Liverpool 13.46%
West Ham 13.25%
Everton 12.34%
Arsenal 11.91%
Tottenham 11.79%
Watford 10.74%
Chelsea 10.34%
Bournemouth 10.17%
Swansea 10.12%
Burnley 9.60%
Newcastle 8.73%
Stoke 8.70%
Brighton 8.66%
Huddersfield 8.20%
Southampton 7.99%
Palace 7.93%
West Brom 7.88%

Not too bad. But how about the other end?

Average shots conceded per game:

Man City 6.3
Liverpool 7.4
Tottenham 8.7
Chelsea 10.1
Arsenal 10.8
Watford 11.2
Huddersfield 11.6
Man Utd 11.8
Crystal Palace 12.7
Newcastle 13
Southampton 13
Leicester 13.1
West Brom 13.5
Brighton 14.3
Swansea 14.5
Everton 14.5
Bournemouth 14.5
West Ham 14.6
Stoke 14.7
Burnley 15.3

Percentage of shots conceded resulting in a goal:
Burnley 5.72%
Man Utd 6.62%
Brighton 9.40%
Chelsea 9.59%
Swansea 9.70%
Tottenham 9.70%
Newcastle 9.86%
Leicester 10.73%
Everton 11.08%
Bournemouth 11.42%
West Brom 11.67%
Man City 11.90%
Southampton 12.02%
Crystal Palace 12.41%
West Ham 12.41%
Arsenal 12.44%
Stoke 12.99%
Huddersfield 14.11%
Liverpool 14.33%
Watford 15.96%

So it's pretty much what we'd expect. Our opponents don't get many chances against us, but they're more likely to be decent quality chances that they can put away.

But how does this compare to the last three games. Well here's the same stats for the last 3 games we played.

For
Shots: 51
On Target: 9 (17.65% compared to our usual 40.5%)
Goals: 3
% of shots leading to a goal: 5.88% (compared to our usual 15.99%)

Against
Shots: 19
On Target: 12 (63.16% compared to a usual 36.8% for Liverpool and 36.51% for Man Utd)
Goals: % of shots leading to a goal: 42.11% (compared to 11.9% for us defensively, 13.46% for Liverpool, and 14.65% for Man Utd)

So yeah, we completely fucked up at both ends of the pitch. But then we already knew that.

Interesting post mate.

How do we explain this 3 game anomaly though?!