Cole Palmer

9 goals from pens out of his 20 in the PL for Chelsea. He is a good player, a Chelsea-level player as it stands. Whether he will ever become City-level player remains to be seen. Many years of hard work ahead of him.
 
Do penalties not count?
They count, but Palmer's only scoring those penalties because he's at Chelsea. People are acting like he'd have 23 goals for City this season if we'd not sold him when the fact of the matter if he would barely be making a difference. He definitely wouldn't be able to push his teammates out of the way and be allowed to get away with it.
 
If only Robbie fowler would have known how much penalties mean when we didn’t get into the uefa cup…
Convinced to this day that him missing that penalty kept us up the following season. No chance we'd have been able to juggle UEFA Cup football with that team. We finished nine points above the drop but only because our form in the first half of the season was so good. Juggling UEFA Cup games with that run in the autumn (7th place in December) might not have been possible and we'd have probably buckled.
 
Do penalties not count?
In the PL this season, I think the conversion rate for penalties is over 90%.

Having a good taker is vital, and he's certainly got that confidence (although it'll probably take missing one or two to find out if that's just ignorance of the pressure), but they're still padding.

Nicolas Jackson has apparently never taken a penalty, but then neither had Cole when he joined Chelsea. if Jackson had been on the pitch at Burnley at the start of the season, as centre forward, he could well have been the one to grab the ball that day. If he was the 20+ goal scorer, would Palmer still look as good?
 
In the PL this season, I think the conversion rate for penalties is over 90%.

Having a good taker is vital, and he's certainly got that confidence (although it'll probably take missing one or two to find out if that's just ignorance of the pressure), but they're still padding.

Nicolas Jackson has apparently never taken a penalty, but then neither had Cole when he joined Chelsea. if Jackson had been on the pitch at Burnley at the start of the season, as centre forward, he could well have been the one to grab the ball that day. If he was the 20+ goal scorer, would Palmer still look as good?
He’s not the penalty taker though and he hasn’t got 20 goals and a load of assists, so that’s a bit irrelevant really.
 
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He’s not the penalty taker though and he hasn’t got 20 goals and a load of assists, so that’s a bit irrelevant really.
The point about penalties being stat-padding given the league conversion rate (meaning the difference between the best and worst penalty takers is nominal) is very much relevant. That is ignoring that he didn’t earn most of the penalties he took, as well, which for me is another reason they probably shouldn’t be included in direct comparisons of goal scorers.
 

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