Corbyn gets the press treatment again....or does he?

If you can get the Labour party to recruit 14 million new members, then your post may have some relevance.
So how do you explain the surge in labour members? People paying hard earned cash to join - if you can possibly reply sensibly and without flippant nonsense perhaps your views may be seen as relevant ? Half million pay to vote for Corbyn / voting in a general election is free of charge .
 
Corbyn just been photographed posing with a sign pleading to “bring back the shadow cabinet minister for mental health”, a post he himself abolished two months ago and a post he himself can re-instate. Jeremy you don't need a sign or to protest you can just appoint a person to that position. And he wants to run the country???
 
how is that ? with half a million members most of whom voted for corbyn they are the most popular party in europe by a mile - if the members to vote ratio is anything like that (and there is plenty of past evidence to suggest this could happen ) the next general election will see a labour landslide!! do not believe all your hear via tv , radio and newspapers - they have a vested interest in keeping a neo liberal govt in office
The Tories have about 150,000 members, which is slightly more than the SNP. So the SNP got about 10 votes per member in last year's GE, whereas the Tories got nearer 100 votes per member. Labour probably had twice as many members as the Tories at the time of the last GE yet got fewer votes. So there's little evidence of a link between members and votes on that basis.
 
The sad thing about this unassailable fact is that the Conservatives can indulge some of their more crackpot policies
with impunity, and the right wing of the party will be rubbing their hands with glee. The fruitcakes involved in Momentum
will never accept how the general populace of Britain eschews extreme politics, as they do in most stable democracies.

What actual policy of Jeremy Corbyn do you think is fruitcake? Or are you just repeating what you have been told?

The British public lapped up Maggie's extreme right wing policies, but nothing I have heard from Corbyn is particularly extreme, eg ncreasing the minimum wage, maintaining workers rights, making large corporations pay their tax, reducing tax loopholes for the rich, not allowing the reintroduction of grammar schools, renationalising the railways etc. are all fairly moderate and reasonable. What are the policies you believe are so extreme?

No doubt you will say unilateral disarmamant, but to me fruitcake is spending billions we apparently don't have on weapons we plan to never use, while we can't afford to look after our population (food banks, NHS funding crises, Police, Fire, Army cutbacks etc). And if we are ever in a situation where we have to use them it wont make any difference to the end result anyway, we will all be fried.

The Labour Party lost Scotland at the last election because they were not Socialist enough, and until and unless they win it back they are unelectable, whether socialist or red Tory lite.
So they may as well put forward an alternative agenda rather than pretend to be 'nice' Tories.

Also a very large part of the electorate votes against it's own economic interest because it is told to and Labour needs to defeat that. More likely to get there by offering a bold and completely different option than by arguing for a few degrees of separation.
 
So how do you explain the surge in labour members? People paying hard earned cash to join - if you can possibly reply sensibly and without flippant nonsense perhaps your views may be seen as relevant ? Half million pay to vote for Corbyn / voting in a general election is free of charge .
The size of a party's membership will not reflect a massive surge towards that party in a GE. The overwhelming majority of
folk who vote in this country are not members of any political party, personally, the only bloke I knew of that was, was a staunch
member of the Communist party. My comment about 14 million may have appeared flippant, but Labour will need to inspire around
that many to win a GE. Until it comes to elections, no one gives a toss about politics in the main, other than ranting on here possibly,
the surge in Labour members has happened because a left wing leader has been ensconced, and leftists around the country have rushed to join.
The polls, (yes they can be wrong) currently have Labour around 15 points behind, if a GE were to be called tomorrow,
Labour would lose around 100 seats from it's current holdings.


Apologies for the layout, fuck knows why it's coming out like this!
 
There has been quite a bit of arrogance with regard to the status quo in recent years in this country. All the way from city will never win the title, ukip will never win a seat, corbyn will never win the leadership, we'll never vote to leave the EU, a black us president, the rise of Trump, and I'm sure there are more. A lot of what is bandied around as fact is nothing more that scared right wing folks reassuring each other. A part of growing up is realising that nothing is forever and things do change.
 
There has been quite a bit of arrogance with regard to the status quo in recent years in this country. All the way from city will never win the title, ukip will never win a seat, corbyn will never win the leadership, we'll never vote to leave the EU, a black us president, the rise of Trump, and I'm sure there are more. A lot of what is bandied around as fact is nothing more that scared right wing folks reassuring each other. A part of growing up is realising that nothing is forever and things do change.

Absolutely spot on!

No-one really knows what the future will bring, but a lot of people make a lot of money or gain a lot of power by convincing you that they do.
 
A lot of what is bandied around as fact is nothing more than scared right wing folks reassuring each other.

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The majority of people who believe what they read in the papers might be, and the handful of non-UK resident and non UK tax paying billionaires who own those papers might be, but I seriously doubt that the average working person on minimum wage is scared about the possibility. Labour have said they would increase the minimum wage to £10/hour per hour by 2020 and if they are not blinded by all the bullshit some people might not be too scared to vote for something that is in their own interests.

It has nothing to do with the media. The public remember the last left wing Labour government -constant strikes, power cuts, mass unemployment, the dead unburied, mountains of shit piling up in the streets...

A rise in minimum wage may help a few, but it is no use if there are no jobs.

So how do you explain the surge in labour members? People paying hard earned cash to join - if you can possibly reply sensibly and without flippant nonsense perhaps your views may be seen as relevant ? Half million pay to vote for Corbyn / voting in a general election is free of charge .

But where have these new members come from? They are not Tory voters who have been won over by Comrade Corbyns Students' Union politics, they are just your usual crusties and Socialist Worker types that would have voted Labour before they joined the party.
 
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It has nothing to do with the media. The public remember the last left wing Labour government -constant strikes, power cuts, mass unemployment, the dead unburied, mountains of shit piling up in the streets...

A rise in minimum wage may help a few, but it is no use if there are no jobs.



But where have these new members come from? They are not Tory voters who have been won over by Comrade Corbyns Students' Union politics, they are just your usual crusties and Socialist Worker types that would have voted Labour before they joined the party.


Is this borrow,tax,spend, pay workers wages on behalf of companies and bring back more Union powers not new then? I thought John balaclava McDonnell was on to something especially with his chruchillian delivery. I was about to go out and buy a green jumper and everything.
 

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