Prestwich_Blue
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I can't say Miliband fills me with confidence but the thought of this man in 11 Downing St fills me with horror:
blue cigar said:Would anyone seriously prefer farage to miliband? Ukip,the party where closet racists can find a home. The one thing cameron has over miliband is his persona,he comes across well and speaks well,and yet....for all that and considering the daily mail mob state that he is doing a great job...he is at best level pegging with the "useless" miliband? I suspect tory voters are very very nervous right now and so they should be,the nest they can get is another coalition...god help us if cameron ever did get a majority.
That would have been some high-performing team!chabal said:Thatcher got a second class honours degree.
Just a pity she didn't end up as a regional sales manager looking after a team of IT reps in North and West Yorkshire.
Prestwich_Blue said:That would have been some high-performing team!chabal said:Thatcher got a second class honours degree.
Just a pity she didn't end up as a regional sales manager looking after a team of IT reps in North and West Yorkshire.
gordondaviesmoustache said:Someone who has those qualifications, who comes across as poorly (and lacking in intellectual sharpness) as Milliband does, suggests hard work and a complete lack of a social life, rather than genuine, innate talent was the prime factor in those qualifications. Nothing wrong with those characteristics, far from it. I greatly admire people who make the most of whatever talent they possess, but we're talking of someone running to be Prime Minister, not soneone about to undertake a second interview for the role of regional sales manager looking after a team of IT reps in North and West Yorkshire.
Stupid? Demonstrably not.
Impressively intelligent? I would also say not.
It is some indication. There are many means of evaluating intelligence. To suggest, as you did, that an ability to communicate has no currency in that regard is utterly wrong.Rascal said:gordondaviesmoustache said:Someone who has those qualifications, who comes across as poorly (and lacking in intellectual sharpness) as Milliband does, suggests hard work and a complete lack of a social life, rather than genuine, innate talent was the prime factor in those qualifications. Nothing wrong with those characteristics, far from it. I greatly admire people who make the most of whatever talent they possess, but we're talking of someone running to be Prime Minister, not soneone about to undertake a second interview for the role of regional sales manager looking after a team of IT reps in North and West Yorkshire.
Stupid? Demonstrably not.
Impressively intelligent? I would also say not.
Since when has a persons ability to communicate been any indication of intellectual sharpness?
I know people who communicate superbly but are intellectual wastelands
gordondaviesmoustache said:It is some indication. There are many means of evaluating intelligence. To suggest, as you did, that an ability to communicate has no currency in that regard is utterly wrong.
I would suggest it's more important in a politician's intelligence tick list than pretty much any other profession. If someone lacks that form of intelligence I would suggest a career in politics isn't for them. An ability to communicate well is quite an important part of the job.
I think Stephen Hawkin conveys his thoughts in a beautifully funny, cheeky and hugely intelligent way. What a strange thing to suggest otherwise. He is a truly brilliant communicator.Rascal said:gordondaviesmoustache said:It is some indication. There are many means of evaluating intelligence. To suggest, as you did, that an ability to communicate has no currency in that regard is utterly wrong.
I would suggest it's more important in a politician's intelligence tick list than pretty much any other profession. If someone lacks that form of intelligence I would suggest a career in politics isn't for them. An ability to communicate well is quite an important part of the job.
So Hawkings lack of communication skills means his intelligence should be questioned.
I thought you would see through "presentation" politics and realise that there is room for both visionaries such as Atlee and orators such as Churchill. A mix of both is rare, even Obama failed in his vision as style won over substance.
Maybe its just me that prefers a man with a clear political vision and understanding of the world than a man who can talk well whilst having a head full of broken biscuits.