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Martin Samuel tells it again..
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chesterbells
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Agree with 95% of what he writes tbh, whatever the topic.
Certainly giving plenty in this one.
Love the fact he's at the mail now, simply cos it means he'll be so widely read - in print and on their really popular website
Certainly giving plenty in this one.
Love the fact he's at the mail now, simply cos it means he'll be so widely read - in print and on their really popular website
Fine if that's what they want and gets through, regardless of our position at that time compliant or not our appeal should be based on accounts and we should insist that the requirements should take consideration of debt and the repayment of.
It would be a valid and interesting challenge and probably buy us anotrher couple of years. It all seems far too cosy and selective for my liking!
It would be a valid and interesting challenge and probably buy us anotrher couple of years. It all seems far too cosy and selective for my liking!
marshymcfc
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Samuel is by far the best sports journalist, he said it how it is and not just what sells papers to ignorant fans.
Chipmeister
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Good article and hopefully gets the message to many readers of all football clubs,
The recent Champions League draw highlighted for me what is so wrong with our game, it is so heavily weighted that certain clubs are almost (united last season blew it) guaranteed their Champions league money year on year.
Its all stitched up and they want to stitch up tighter.
The recent Champions League draw highlighted for me what is so wrong with our game, it is so heavily weighted that certain clubs are almost (united last season blew it) guaranteed their Champions league money year on year.
Its all stitched up and they want to stitch up tighter.
Nail on the fucking head. He's saying this to prevent teams like United, Madrid and Barca from living off their fanbase's and sales in which they've built up over years of spending hundreds of millions. Then along comes 'little city' and what they've won the fucking league, "shit we better do something to prevent that, I know FFP". On top of this it also stops smaller clubs from growing and expanding.
We need more Journalists to speak out like this, fucking good on him, he's done an article on Whelan being a gobshite now can we have one on Fergie, Blatter and Platini, cheers Martin.
We need more Journalists to speak out like this, fucking good on him, he's done an article on Whelan being a gobshite now can we have one on Fergie, Blatter and Platini, cheers Martin.
TGR
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Dave Whelan: The biggest gobshite / 'rentaquote' in British sport!
This is the same 'Tell it Straight' Dave Whelan who's rugby league team got docked 4 points and fined almost £250,000 for breaching the Rugby League salary cap rules in 2007!
see link:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/6896583.stm
Oh yes Mr. Whelan is a fine example of financial constraint and fair play... My arse!
‘I think Manchester City have shaken them up a little bit,’ said Whelan. Oh, Dave. Bigmouth strikes again. You’ve said the loud thing quiet and the quiet thing loud. People aren’t meant to know that. They must continue believing that football’s established elite want financial controls for the good of the game; not to maintain a cosy monopoly. If they realise that United fear City on the pitch, so must legislate them out of contention instead, the whole plan falls down.
Telling it straight: Dave Whelan (right) had some forthright views about financial limitations
Telling it straight: Dave Whelan (right) had some forthright views about financial limitations
This is the same 'Tell it Straight' Dave Whelan who's rugby league team got docked 4 points and fined almost £250,000 for breaching the Rugby League salary cap rules in 2007!
see link:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/6896583.stm
Oh yes Mr. Whelan is a fine example of financial constraint and fair play... My arse!
‘I think Manchester City have shaken them up a little bit,’ said Whelan. Oh, Dave. Bigmouth strikes again. You’ve said the loud thing quiet and the quiet thing loud. People aren’t meant to know that. They must continue believing that football’s established elite want financial controls for the good of the game; not to maintain a cosy monopoly. If they realise that United fear City on the pitch, so must legislate them out of contention instead, the whole plan falls down.
Telling it straight: Dave Whelan (right) had some forthright views about financial limitations
Telling it straight: Dave Whelan (right) had some forthright views about financial limitations
johnny crossan
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Manchester City and UEFA in sustainability talks
September 13, 2012
By Harry Harris, Football Correspondent
Manchester City are one of a number of clubs holding talks with UEFA ahead of the implementation of Financial Fair Play in order to convince them that they aim to achieve long-term sustainability, ESPN can reveal.
The FFP rules being introduced by European football's governing body mean clubs must break even within a margin of "acceptable deviation" of €45 million over the first two years - next season and the one after that.
Any club showing a loss of more than that figure will be punished by UEFA sanctions, with City and Chelsea the two most vulnerable in English football because of their high levels of spending.
But a City source told ESPN: "The ambition of the club, from the outset of new ownership in September 2008, was to build a sustainable football club. The club remains fully committed to that principle."
City are not alone in holding direct talks with UEFA about the issue. ESPN understands that up to 19 clubs across Europe are currently involved in similar discussions.
The club's claims to be chasing long-term sustainability will be received sceptically in many quarters. The Premier League champions have bought many of the best players available, running up an enormous wage bill and running at record losses.
However, this summer's transfer window showed they are no longer willing to pay vastly inflated fees, even though that meant manager Roberto Mancini missed out on his prime targets. Instead, the club bought in less expensive players.
They are cautious about Premier League plans to introduce a domestic version of FFP an approach, an insider told ESPN, that could be shared by "three or four" other clubs.
But with 14 votes required to push through Premier League FFP rules, the chances are that they will be brought in for next season.
September 13, 2012
By Harry Harris, Football Correspondent
Manchester City are one of a number of clubs holding talks with UEFA ahead of the implementation of Financial Fair Play in order to convince them that they aim to achieve long-term sustainability, ESPN can reveal.
The FFP rules being introduced by European football's governing body mean clubs must break even within a margin of "acceptable deviation" of €45 million over the first two years - next season and the one after that.
Any club showing a loss of more than that figure will be punished by UEFA sanctions, with City and Chelsea the two most vulnerable in English football because of their high levels of spending.
But a City source told ESPN: "The ambition of the club, from the outset of new ownership in September 2008, was to build a sustainable football club. The club remains fully committed to that principle."
City are not alone in holding direct talks with UEFA about the issue. ESPN understands that up to 19 clubs across Europe are currently involved in similar discussions.
The club's claims to be chasing long-term sustainability will be received sceptically in many quarters. The Premier League champions have bought many of the best players available, running up an enormous wage bill and running at record losses.
However, this summer's transfer window showed they are no longer willing to pay vastly inflated fees, even though that meant manager Roberto Mancini missed out on his prime targets. Instead, the club bought in less expensive players.
They are cautious about Premier League plans to introduce a domestic version of FFP an approach, an insider told ESPN, that could be shared by "three or four" other clubs.
But with 14 votes required to push through Premier League FFP rules, the chances are that they will be brought in for next season.
bluevengence
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I like this guy......
"Tuesday, September 18, 2012, Manchester City will play Real Madrid as equals in the Bernabeu Stadium; 14 years ago, give or take a few days, on September 12, 1998, they played Macclesfield Town at Moss Rose in what was then Football League Division Two.
An 86th-minute goal by Shaun Goater separated the teams.
Anyone who wishes to curb the opportunity for other clubs to follow in City’s footsteps really doesn’t get what makes football wonderful."
article near bottom.. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2204200/Football-fans-thought--Martin-Samuel.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... amuel.html</a>
"Tuesday, September 18, 2012, Manchester City will play Real Madrid as equals in the Bernabeu Stadium; 14 years ago, give or take a few days, on September 12, 1998, they played Macclesfield Town at Moss Rose in what was then Football League Division Two.
An 86th-minute goal by Shaun Goater separated the teams.
Anyone who wishes to curb the opportunity for other clubs to follow in City’s footsteps really doesn’t get what makes football wonderful."
article near bottom.. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2204200/Football-fans-thought--Martin-Samuel.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... amuel.html</a>