Media Discussion - 2023/24

[hammocity]

Don't forget this is Arsenal.

They're not exactly the most ambitious club in the division. Arsene Wenger would often refer to how finishing in the top four felt like winning a trophy.

If you celebrate that level of mediocrity it stands to reason you'd think going unbeaten over a season is a big deal.

Wenger won just 3 titles during his tenure, the Tarquins were amongst the biggest spenders and wage payers. They paid £11m for Henry whilst our biggest fee was £3.3m for Lee Bradbury at the time, no one brought up inequality then.

To clarify Wenger did some great business with the likes of Anelka and Overmars sold for big cash but due to the Tarquins ability to pay top dollar on wages and transfers it put them in an envious position.

Shock horror, the correlation between spend on transfers and wages and winning trophies existed even then, same for the Dippers and the Rags, there’s nothing new about it.

 

[Onholiday(somemightsay)]

Can you imagine the spineless **** saying something similar about a group of supporters that point the finger of blame at the SAS?

Now I'm not saying such a scholar hasn't aired his very well constructed views on that particular tragic event, however when I just tried to Google 'Jonathan Liew on Heisel' it didn't return anything close to an opinion on it.

Almost as if he has never voiced a view on it - you know, the anniversary that comes around once a a year every fucking year!?!

However, what I did stumble across his footballing allegiance (I am going to have to paraphrase this as I now can't find the same pissing link - apologies)

Ahem;

'I am a follower of Spurs and Arsenal, but it is a very strict 1 & 2'

Insightful............

 

[mcfcphil]

It’s a concept never mentioned but the very job of being a journalist fosters incredible levels of arrogance and Liew is a perfect example.

If you think about it, as a journalist you are almost never wrong. You aren’t accountable for P&L or operational effectiveness. You’re not a solicitor who might lose a case they thought they might win or a doctor who loses a patient they hoped they could save.

These are all events/failures that prompt you to question your own performance/ability and whether you could have done things better.

If you’re a journalist you just sit and write, and the nature of the job means you have so much latitude in what you can say it’s almost impossible to be “wrong”. You just fall back on public interest or “it’s what my sources say”.

Think about it, if every day of your working life you can never be wrong it builds a level of astonishing arrogance and humility goes out of the window.

The biggest irony in all of this is that the basic principle of journalism is to question everything, yet the only thing journalists like Liew refuse to question is whether or not their own opinion might be wrong.

 

[Elbow beards]

Not sure I'm aware of this insightful Grimsby follower - surely he's not broken rank from the masses..........

Someone on the financial rules thread has said he's a Grimsby fan.

 

[Blueboy73]

Now I'm not saying such a scholar hasn't aired his very well constructed views on that particular tragic event, however when I just tried to Google 'Jonathan Liew on Heisel' it didn't return anything close to an opinion on it.

Almost as if he has never voiced a view on it - you know, the anniversary that comes around once a a year every fucking year!?!

However, what I did stumble across his footballing allegiance (I am going to have to paraphrase this as I now can't find the same pissing link - apologies)

Ahem;

'I am a follower of Spurs and Arsenal, but it is a very strict 1 & 2'

Insightful............

In other words, he's a pompous London centric wanker.

 

[spiny]

Anyone else hear the Martin Samuel advert on Talksport where he invites people to subscribe to read his columns in the Times and Sunday Times?

 

[laserblue]

Can you imagine the hype if the rags had won the youth cup last night.

In fact imagine the hype if they’d got the final.

Twats. The lot of them

They were knocked out in an early round by....Swindon.

 

[laserblue]

They way they are reported upon suggests a collective membership across the Fourth Estate. By any objective measure, the group of supporters with the greatest capacity to nurture conspiracy theories and illusory slights are Liverpool fans. There are countless examples of this and it is a course of conduct that goes back 40 years, when they absurdly blamed Heysel on a number of third parties and rogue actors. And yet not one member of our free and fearless press dare comment on it. Actually one did, and he was subject to a witch-hunt. So, like all bullies they look for a less recalcitrant target.

It actually reflects poorly on the club and their supine approach to dealing with the press that Liew feels brave enough to gaslight its supporters in those terms.

Spot on. Liew has absolutely no self awareness or his head is wedged firmly up his own arse. Most likely both. The man's a malicious fucking fraud.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Just then on SSN

"Man City can go above Arsenal with a win over Fulham, but it's at the BOTTOM of the table where things get INTERESTING!"

Determining the potential winner of the Premier League and Champions of England isn't interesting? Must remember that...

It's like the CL...we were bottlers for years, Rodders scores and we've made the Compy boring. Even this season the CL gone from boring to brilliant amazingly around the time we were knocked out.

 

[Jamshopbridge]

The slide of the Guardian started with the move to London and targeting the media and teaching as its audience. A decline in print made predictable the shift to social media content and its views.

Any pretence of championing social justice or factual reporting is an illusion peddled by its middle-class, self-styled, right-on socialist contributors and editorials with their opinion pieces. This includes the re-educating of the working class masses about football. Pseuds corner? Too right.

Spot on. Thank you for articulating what I've thought about The Guardian for a while now. I stopped subscribing to this self righteous, sanctimonious, negative reporting rag a while ago.