PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Paladin]

Is this a bit like being caught allegedly shoplifting one bag of Maltesers and being separately charged for each individual sweet contained in the bag?

And the packet, and the air between the individual sweets.

 

[Zubrman]

And the packet, and the air between the individual sweets.

And the emotional damage of all the dipper fans who missed out on the Malteser-eating experience.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Yup. Once the allegation is proved on the balance etc, the PL tell the panel what sanction they would like to see. The panel can, and do, vary this sanction based, for example, on mitigation.
Whether this is in the rules or the PL are just making it up as they go along, I don’t know but, if you look at the panel’s final statements in any case, this is what is happening.

Fair enough. All on the same page. This just started because the Twitter moron didn't know what he was talking about.

 

[M18CTID]

Anyone heard of this person before?

Not until last night, no. The more I delved into his timeline, the more convinced I was that it's some kind of parody account. Even if it's not, the tweet is 100% bollocks

 

[johnevans]

Comparing Haaland to Ken Dodd is probably the funniest and most bizarre thing I'll read today - well done ! lol

Don't know about you but to me The Viking and The King of The Diddymen could've been separated at birth..

(NB.. My guide dog likes them both too!)

 

[old blue]

Anyone heard of this person before?

He did not do well after leaving Grange Hill.

 

[ganganvince]

I had to go back to refresh my memory on what we're alleged to have done.

Details of the Premier League Rules that the Club is alleged to have breached are as follows:

1. In respect of each of Seasons 2009/10 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those seasons that required provision by a member club to the Premier League, in the utmost good faith, of accurate financial information that gives a true and fair view of the club’s financial position, in particular with respect to its revenue (including sponsorship revenue), its related parties and its operating costs, namely:
(a) for Season 2009/10, Premier League Rules B.13, C.71, C.72 and C.75 (from 10 September 2009, Premier League Rules B.13, C.71, C.72, C.79 and C.80);
(b) for Season 2010/11, Premier League Rules B.13, C.78, C.79, C.86 and C.87;
(c) for Season 2011/12, Premier League Rules B.13, C.78, C.79, C.86 and C.87;
(d) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules B.16, E.3, E.4, E.11 and E.12;
(e) for Season 2013/14, Premier League Rules B.15, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.49;
(f) for Season 2014/15, Premier League Rules B.16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.50;
(g) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules B.16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.50;
(h) for Season 2016/17, Premier League Rules B.16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.51; and
(i) for Season 2017/18, Premier League Rules B.16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.51.

2. In respect of:
(a) each of Seasons 2009/10 to 2012/13 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to include full details of manager remuneration in its relevant contracts with its manager, namely:
(1) for Seasons 2009/10 to 2011/12 inclusive, Premier League Rules Q.7 and Q.8; and
(2) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules P.7 and P.8; and
(b) each of Seasons 2010/11 to 2015/16 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to include full details of player remuneration in its relevant contracts with its players, namely:
(1) for Seasons 2010/11 and 2011/12, Premier League Rules K.12 and K.20;
(2) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules T.12 and T.20;
(3) for Seasons 2013/14 and 2014/15, Premier League Rules T.12 and T.19; and
(4) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules T.13 and T.20.

3. In respect of each of Seasons 2013/14 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to comply with UEFA’s regulations, including UEFA’s Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations, namely:
(a) for Season 2013/14, Premier League Rule B.14.6; and
(b) for Seasons 2014/15 to 2017/18 inclusive, Premier League Rule B.15.6.

4. In respect of each of the Seasons 2015/16 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons on Profitability and Sustainability, namely:
(a) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules E.52 to E.60; and
(b) for Seasons 2016/17 and 2017/18, Premier League Rules E.53 to E.60.

5. In respect of the period from December 2018 to date, the Premier League Rules applicable in the relevant Seasons requiring a member club to cooperate with, and assist, the Premier League in its investigations, including by providing documents and information to the Premier League in the utmost good faith, namely:
(a) for Season 2018/19, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;
(b) for Season 2019/20, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;
(c) for Season 2020/21, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;
(d) for Season 2021/22, Premier League Rules B.15, B.18, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13; and
(e) for Season 2022/23, Premier League Rules B.15, B.18, W.1, W.2, W.15 and W.16.

So, if I've got this right:-

1. Cooked the books in regards to sponsorship and perhaps Fordham?
2. Mancini
3. Failing UEFA FFP? Obviously(?) can't be right?
4. Failing P&S
5. Failure to cooperate

Am I well wide of the mark on any of that?

You missed being too good. Being serious does anyone else think the Everton and Forest cases would have been settled with a fine were it not that they are trying to establish a precedent?

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Anyone heard of this person before?

I havent but he seems to be just spouting shit for clicks. And I think he's caught onto the City hatred gravy train. But he so obvioously hates City. And Newcastle. He's one of those reporters that pokes the fanbase then cries when they bite back.

 

[Jam Tomorrow]

Only 6 years!!!! Not even classed as part time that mate. I did 22years 87-09

Pah, easy then mate, didn’t even have to run in boots ;-)

 

[manimanc]

Yup. Once the allegation is proved on the balance etc, the PL tell the panel what sanction they would like to see. The panel can, and do, vary this sanction based, for example, on mitigation.
Whether this is in the rules or the PL are just making it up as they go along, I don’t know but, if you look at the panel’s final statements in any case, this is what is happening.

"..the PL are just making it up as they go along.."

Nailed it in one sentence.

Can you imagine the Premier League in court, some overweight prick in a cheap suit representing them, just pointing over to our representatives shouting they're guilty, it's them, they've fiddled books, they've ran out of chips, their grass is too long, arrest them arrest them.

The Premier League, as I've said before, have got absolutely nothing on us, not one iota of evidence. And like I've said a million times, I'll hold my hands up and say yeah it's a fair cop when I turn my TV on and see HMRC and the fraud squad leaving our premises with files, hard drives, pc's, paperwork and anything else that shows us committing fraud, until then I shall sit back, relax and continue to be entertained by rival fans suddenly turning into lawyers and sports finance analysts.

Crack on.