squirtyflower
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Stan Collymore
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Basically saying that we are only so far ahead because it's a poor league.
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How many CL group winners is this terrible league going to provide?
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Where to begin with those comments and those rags and dippers who responded looking back to the 90s with rose tinted glasses(I wonder why that really is?).
Since when was anyone watching mid table clubs on TV much let alone a bottom of the league clash on a monday night back in the 90s? That's essentially what people are using to avoid giving credit to City, never mind the standard of player has never been higher in those clubs because of this increased revenue they dislike so much(which they get a larger cut of than they ever did back then, when the Sky 4 took the lions share and the rest fed on scraps). They can actually play football, every single one a better athlete than you would have found in the 90s in that standard of club.
5 English clubs all topping their groups for the first time I can remember, to even have 5 competing or all English clubs qualifying for the knockout stages would have been seen a great season for the PL.
Does he also really believe the standard of football used to be better? How backwards is that? It's slowly been getting better if anything thanks to better and more modern managers(tacticians) being brought in and the old fashion style managers who like hoofball finally being seen as something holding PL clubs back.
It's all just an exercise in avoiding giving City credit, who are literally breaking PL records they are that good this season and he just can't take it. He's probably looking at that 14wins in a row record and getting this in early.
Since when was anyone watching mid table clubs on TV much let alone a bottom of the league clash on a monday night back in the 90s? That's essentially what people are using to avoid giving credit to City, never mind the standard of player has never been higher in those clubs because of this increased revenue they dislike so much(which they get a larger cut of than they ever did back then, when the Sky 4 took the lions share and the rest fed on scraps). They can actually play football, every single one a better athlete than you would have found in the 90s in that standard of club.
5 English clubs all topping their groups for the first time I can remember, to even have 5 competing or all English clubs qualifying for the knockout stages would have been seen a great season for the PL.
Does he also really believe the standard of football used to be better? How backwards is that? It's slowly been getting better if anything thanks to better and more modern managers(tacticians) being brought in and the old fashion style managers who like hoofball finally being seen as something holding PL clubs back.
It's all just an exercise in avoiding giving City credit, who are literally breaking PL records they are that good this season and he just can't take it. He's probably looking at that 14wins in a row record and getting this in early.
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Excellent piece on Football365 pulling apart Collymore's analysis of City. It's better that this has been done by a neutral and not City affiliated.
http://www.football365.com/news/mediawatch-manchester-city-are-good-everyone-else-is-rubbish
For those that can't be arsed to click on the link:
Pep talk
December 13, 2016 is a date that will go down in history for Pep Guardiola. The Spaniard’s world has never been the same since he offered a simple and honest response to a straightforward question in a press conference.
Asked by a Spanish journalist for his thoughts on criticism he had faced from a pundit the week prior, Guardiola provided a confused response.
“Stan Collymore?”
Thus started one of the stranger, more one-sided rivalries in modern football.
‘City are undoubtedly the best… in the worst Premier League I’ve seen for years,’ reads the Daily Mirror headline to his latest attempt to denounce the achievements a team who have made the best start to an English top-flight season ever. It’s a ballsy stance.
You see, City might enjoy an eight-point gap over their nearest challengers, but that is only because everyone else is just a bit rubbish. It has little to do with City being almost faultless thus far.
Collymore ‘has to doff my cap’ to City for their ‘remarkable start’, but their ‘wonderful achievement’ needs to be put into context. And that context is that ‘City are playing in the worst-quality top flight’ in recent history.
Arsenal? Not ‘competing’. Chelsea? ‘Having their struggles’. Liverpool? ‘Not competing’. Tottenham? Drawn with Burnley, Swansea and West Brom, and ‘poor’ against Arsenal. Manchester United? ‘The only team’ capable of going ‘toe-to-toe’ with Guardiola’s side.
Which is weird, because United are closer in terms of points to all of those sides (and Burnley) as they are to City.
Also, if these elite clubs really are so comparatively poor, how are Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester United and Tottenham topping their Champions League groups? The Bundesliga and La Liga must be really bad, and the German and Spanish equivalents to our Stanley must be really annoyed.
Oh, and if this really is ‘the worst-quality top flight’ in recent memory, Mediawatch would like to point out one of those pesky facts: Manchester United’s current tally of 29 points after 13 games would put them top in two of the last seven seasons. Would Collymore really rank this campaign as lower on quality as the one when Leicester won the league with 81 points?
But back to City, for Collymore cannot go more than five paragraphs without discussing a manager who he thinks once made the mistake of not knowing who he was.
‘So while, yes, their achievement is a fine one by a very good manager, and while you can only beat what is put in front of you, I’m finding it difficult to get too excited about what they are doing.’
Stan Collymore is not ‘too excited’ about a team dropping two points in 13 games, and winning 23 of their last 25 games. Pass it on.
‘This, after all, is a club which has spent billions in a short space of time,’ Collymore predictably continues, rifling through his book of ‘Reasons to hate Manchester City’, and sympathising with Manchester United and Chelsea, who just have no money.
‘Where City will be judged is in the Champions League when they take on Barcelona in the Nou Camp, Bayern Munich in the Allianz Arena and Real Madrid in the Bernabeu.
‘The question for them is not whether they can go to Selhurst Park or the Vitality Stadium to get a result, but whether they can they go [sic] to those Spanish and German fortresses and turn it on in the same way they have been doing on the domestic front.
‘If the answer is yes then we will all be mightily impressed and City will get all the plaudits they deserve.’
So you will only be impressed by Manchester City’s dominance of the Premier League if they…beat Barcelona in the Champions League? Erm…
Stanley knife
Let’s be fair to Stan. Perhaps he is just upset that, back in August, he wrote that this season ‘is shaping up to be the most competitive rollercoaster ride in the history of the Premier League’.
Three months later, ‘City are playing in the worst-quality top flight’ in recent history. Impressive.
Oh, and he tipped Chelsea for the title, as City will ‘take time to settle’, and will ‘demolish some teams but concede too many’.
Weird eh.
Moving the goalposts
‘What will determine Pep Guardiola’s success is not how they play, it’s whether or not they can get one more point than the team in second’ – October 18.
41 days later, and City have extended their lead over ‘the team in second’ from two points to eight. And now…
‘Where City will be judged is in the Champions League when they take on Barcelona in the Nou Camp, Bayern Munich in the Allianz Arena and Real Madrid in the Bernabeu. The question for them is not whether they can go to Selhurst Park or the Vitality Stadium to get a result, but whether they can go to those Spanish and German fortresses and turn it on in the same way they have been doing on the domestic front’ – November 28.
Delicious.
Obsession, by Calvin Klein
‘Manchester City’s Pep Guardiola is a good manager but stop kidding yourself, he’s not a genius like Cloughie’ – October 20, 2016.
‘Pep Guardiola’s ‘My way or the highway’ attitude could see him toppled by both Conte and Klopp’ – December 5, 2016.
‘It’s fine if Pep Guardiola doesn’t know me – Brian Clough did, rated me highly, and he got his success from scratch’ – December 13, 2016.
‘Only in this era of hype and hysteria can Manchester City’s Pep Guardiola be called the greatest manager’ – January 17, 2017.
‘Sergio Aguero can never do enough for Pep Guardiola – the Manchester City boss struggles to manage his big names’ – March 5.
‘Many journalists and fans think Pep Guardiola reinvented football – I’m enjoying his Manchester City test’ – in which Collymore admits he is ‘enjoying’ seeing Guardiola ‘struggle’ – March 18.
‘Why Pep Guardiola’s trophyless first season at Manchester City is worth only three or four out of 10’ – April 24.
‘Tottenham are probably the only team in England, everything considered, that I would pay money to watch. Not Manchester City – good to watch, but I just can’t get excited about them as a club’ – November 21.
http://www.football365.com/news/mediawatch-manchester-city-are-good-everyone-else-is-rubbish
For those that can't be arsed to click on the link:
Pep talk
December 13, 2016 is a date that will go down in history for Pep Guardiola. The Spaniard’s world has never been the same since he offered a simple and honest response to a straightforward question in a press conference.
Asked by a Spanish journalist for his thoughts on criticism he had faced from a pundit the week prior, Guardiola provided a confused response.
“Stan Collymore?”
Thus started one of the stranger, more one-sided rivalries in modern football.
‘City are undoubtedly the best… in the worst Premier League I’ve seen for years,’ reads the Daily Mirror headline to his latest attempt to denounce the achievements a team who have made the best start to an English top-flight season ever. It’s a ballsy stance.
You see, City might enjoy an eight-point gap over their nearest challengers, but that is only because everyone else is just a bit rubbish. It has little to do with City being almost faultless thus far.
Collymore ‘has to doff my cap’ to City for their ‘remarkable start’, but their ‘wonderful achievement’ needs to be put into context. And that context is that ‘City are playing in the worst-quality top flight’ in recent history.
Arsenal? Not ‘competing’. Chelsea? ‘Having their struggles’. Liverpool? ‘Not competing’. Tottenham? Drawn with Burnley, Swansea and West Brom, and ‘poor’ against Arsenal. Manchester United? ‘The only team’ capable of going ‘toe-to-toe’ with Guardiola’s side.
Which is weird, because United are closer in terms of points to all of those sides (and Burnley) as they are to City.
Also, if these elite clubs really are so comparatively poor, how are Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester United and Tottenham topping their Champions League groups? The Bundesliga and La Liga must be really bad, and the German and Spanish equivalents to our Stanley must be really annoyed.
Oh, and if this really is ‘the worst-quality top flight’ in recent memory, Mediawatch would like to point out one of those pesky facts: Manchester United’s current tally of 29 points after 13 games would put them top in two of the last seven seasons. Would Collymore really rank this campaign as lower on quality as the one when Leicester won the league with 81 points?
But back to City, for Collymore cannot go more than five paragraphs without discussing a manager who he thinks once made the mistake of not knowing who he was.
‘So while, yes, their achievement is a fine one by a very good manager, and while you can only beat what is put in front of you, I’m finding it difficult to get too excited about what they are doing.’
Stan Collymore is not ‘too excited’ about a team dropping two points in 13 games, and winning 23 of their last 25 games. Pass it on.
‘This, after all, is a club which has spent billions in a short space of time,’ Collymore predictably continues, rifling through his book of ‘Reasons to hate Manchester City’, and sympathising with Manchester United and Chelsea, who just have no money.
‘Where City will be judged is in the Champions League when they take on Barcelona in the Nou Camp, Bayern Munich in the Allianz Arena and Real Madrid in the Bernabeu.
‘The question for them is not whether they can go to Selhurst Park or the Vitality Stadium to get a result, but whether they can they go [sic] to those Spanish and German fortresses and turn it on in the same way they have been doing on the domestic front.
‘If the answer is yes then we will all be mightily impressed and City will get all the plaudits they deserve.’
So you will only be impressed by Manchester City’s dominance of the Premier League if they…beat Barcelona in the Champions League? Erm…
Stanley knife
Let’s be fair to Stan. Perhaps he is just upset that, back in August, he wrote that this season ‘is shaping up to be the most competitive rollercoaster ride in the history of the Premier League’.
Three months later, ‘City are playing in the worst-quality top flight’ in recent history. Impressive.
Oh, and he tipped Chelsea for the title, as City will ‘take time to settle’, and will ‘demolish some teams but concede too many’.
Weird eh.
Moving the goalposts
‘What will determine Pep Guardiola’s success is not how they play, it’s whether or not they can get one more point than the team in second’ – October 18.
41 days later, and City have extended their lead over ‘the team in second’ from two points to eight. And now…
‘Where City will be judged is in the Champions League when they take on Barcelona in the Nou Camp, Bayern Munich in the Allianz Arena and Real Madrid in the Bernabeu. The question for them is not whether they can go to Selhurst Park or the Vitality Stadium to get a result, but whether they can go to those Spanish and German fortresses and turn it on in the same way they have been doing on the domestic front’ – November 28.
Delicious.
Obsession, by Calvin Klein
‘Manchester City’s Pep Guardiola is a good manager but stop kidding yourself, he’s not a genius like Cloughie’ – October 20, 2016.
‘Pep Guardiola’s ‘My way or the highway’ attitude could see him toppled by both Conte and Klopp’ – December 5, 2016.
‘It’s fine if Pep Guardiola doesn’t know me – Brian Clough did, rated me highly, and he got his success from scratch’ – December 13, 2016.
‘Only in this era of hype and hysteria can Manchester City’s Pep Guardiola be called the greatest manager’ – January 17, 2017.
‘Sergio Aguero can never do enough for Pep Guardiola – the Manchester City boss struggles to manage his big names’ – March 5.
‘Many journalists and fans think Pep Guardiola reinvented football – I’m enjoying his Manchester City test’ – in which Collymore admits he is ‘enjoying’ seeing Guardiola ‘struggle’ – March 18.
‘Why Pep Guardiola’s trophyless first season at Manchester City is worth only three or four out of 10’ – April 24.
‘Tottenham are probably the only team in England, everything considered, that I would pay money to watch. Not Manchester City – good to watch, but I just can’t get excited about them as a club’ – November 21.
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Poor Collymoron.
It must be eating him up inside to se how good we have been this season.
It must be eating him up inside to se how good we have been this season.
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Stick to what you're good at Stanley. Don't beat yourself up about your predictions, but don't beat up anyone else either, please....
Stick to what you're good at Stanley. Don't beat yourself up about your predictions, but don't beat up anyone else either, please....
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Complete cock this guy..