Sturgeon wants another referendum

Weird that despite the fact they get next to fuck all votes up here, the Tories are absolutely DESPERATE that Scotland remain in the union.

Weird as according to a lot on here it's all take take take from this too wee, too poor country and it'd be a relief to see Scotland go.

I wonder why.

It's like having a gammy leg. It might be gammy and not work properly, but it's still your leg. No one wants to lose a leg no matter how useless it is.
 
I know referendum's are usually pretty much a once in a life time thing and decide which way a Countries going to go these want another less than 3 years later,talk about never endum.
 
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It's also worth pointing out that over a million people in Scotland voted to leave the EU and have subsequently been wiped out of the public's narrative.

But...but....but she speaks for Scotland or at least she tells us that every 5 mins.
 
In the same way our politicians don't have a scooby how we will cope after Brexit - Why should Nicola Sturgeon be blasted for the same. If they got independence they would make it work just like we will - she's carrying out her manifesto policy by calling a second referendum, because a Scotland not in the EU is totally different to the independent vote she had before. I don't see the big issue, let her and Scotland have the vote.
 
In the same way our politicians don't have a scooby how we will cope after Brexit - Why should Nicola Sturgeon be blasted for the same. If they got independence they would make it work just like we will - she's carrying out her manifesto policy by calling a second referendum, because a Scotland not in the EU is totally different to the independent vote she had before. I don't see the big issue, let her and Scotland have the vote.

Because by waiting a few years Scots will know what the relationship between the UK and EU is like and will be able to make a more informed decision. This option was not available for Brexit.

They don't gain anything by having the vote now as it's been made clear that they will lose their EU status if they leave the UK, regardless of whether the UK is or is not a member. All that having the vote now does is disrupt the Brexit process by pulling more work onto the UK governments' plate - which is, of course, Sturgeon's aim.
 
Nice bit of hypocrisy from the democracy loving May;

'To look at the issue at this time would be unfair, because people wouldn't have the necessary information to make such a crucial decision.'

That didn't seem to matter with the UK;s referendum.
 
In the same way our politicians don't have a scooby how we will cope after Brexit - Why should Nicola Sturgeon be blasted for the same. If they got independence they would make it work just like we will - she's carrying out her manifesto policy by calling a second referendum, because a Scotland not in the EU is totally different to the independent vote she had before. I don't see the big issue, let her and Scotland have the vote.

OK in principle but would you let that get in the way of the exit negotiations or insist they have their referendum later?
 
Nice bit of hypocrisy from the democracy loving May;

'To look at the issue at this time would be unfair, because people wouldn't have the necessary information to make such a crucial decision.'

That didn't seem to matter with the UK;s referendum.

What's she supposed to say? "Fcuk off crankie, you conniving little ****?"

She showed her democratic credentials by embracing the result of the U.K. referendum, even though it wasn't her own preference. Unlike those who are still denying and dissembling.
 
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Nice bit of hypocrisy from the democracy loving May;

'To look at the issue at this time would be unfair, because people wouldn't have the necessary information to make such a crucial decision.'

That didn't seem to matter with the UK;s referendum.

Can i ask what bit of the debate before the referendum did you not understand where Cameron and all the uk establishment plus the EU said there would be no half measures. Cameron got no concessions whatsoever. It could not have been made any clearer that we were voting for hard brexit or to stay in the EU. We voted for the former. To say you were not informed of that is frankly just nonsense.
 
Nice bit of hypocrisy from the democracy loving May;

'To look at the issue at this time would be unfair, because people wouldn't have the necessary information to make such a crucial decision.'

That didn't seem to matter with the UK;s referendum.

It is possible for Scotland to get more key information about what the UK looks like outside the EU by waiting a couple of years for an independence referendum. It was not possible for the UK to get any more information on life outside the EU.
 
OK in principle but would you let that get in the way of the exit negotiations or insist they have their referendum later?

The exit negotiations will stretch long after Article 50 is triggered - they can not sit around being told to shut up whilst letting the Torys get everything they want , we should continue with the Brexit negotiations without Scotland's involvement and meantime let them have there 2nd independent vote basis this, SNP won there election on the premise they would have 2nd referendum if we Brexit and like we often repeat, the will of the people should not be ignored.
 
Its time for the UK to break up. I would also take the opportunity to get rid of the royal family. The North Should also break away from the south, as the government don't care what happens North of Watford. We would be better on our own.
 
The exit negotiations will stretch long after Article 50 is triggered - they can not sit around being told to shut up whilst letting the Torys get everything they want , we should continue with the Brexit negotiations without Scotland's involvement and meantime let them have there 2nd independent vote basis this, SNP won there election on the premise they would have 2nd referendum if we Brexit and like we often repeat, the will of the people should not be ignored.
Like the will of the people from Indy one, you mean?
 
a completely different vote - Indy one was basis (based on?) the UK staying in the EU, UK coming out of the EU completely changes everything for Scotland.
No it wasn't, when I filled in my ballot paper nowhere did it say that this is dependent on the UK staying in the EU.

This 'will of the people' phrase that people keep popping up to support a 2nd referendum is crap, I don't want one for starters. It's the will of wee Jimmy Krankie and her deluded followers.
 

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