Arsenal Post Match Thread.

[IcriedwhenTueartleft]

grab top 4 then sort it for next year.

that's what we said last year...and the season before Bill!

 

[Bozo]

Stones has been very good recently and appears to be developing into the player we hoped for.

I believe he's our future captain.

 

[OB1]

Haha so in one sentance you say you dont care what i belive and then int he next you expect someone to belive what you are saying...no point in debate i see

I didt day luiz deserved to stay on the pitch....he should have gone....but that wasnt the reason we lost the chelski game....we lost it cause we missed chances and we were poor defemsively .....

keep making excuses as when people do this (and if pep is doing it - i dont know that he is) then we wont improve on that performance and i can genuinely say that there was a lot to improve on in that perfomrnace from our perspective and improving on it we would have won....
1) retaining possession better....especailly with balls out from the back 4 into midfield...either the pass was poor or the person collecting the ball ( a lot of this was KDB) wasnt good enough
2......poor passing whe moving into spaces where chances could have materliased if the passess 1-2 passes before the final pass wpuld have come should have been better.
3. better defending - clichy falling alseep, ottomendi not charging around like a moron, better markign from corners

all the above we can effect.....go into games relying on getting refereeing decisoins will not help us improve

We should have had a penalty at the end and if we had scored, we would have had a win that was merited.

 

[exiled-blue]

He's genuinely world class,in every aspect.Alongside Jesus and Sane,he'd be a revelation in our team.

Agree, was shitting it every time he got the ball

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

It's a mentality issue that runs through the team and it's been there for far far too long for it to be down to the managers , not sure spending £200m is the answer , they aren't hungry enough , Kev for all his talent is a mard arse, shirks tackles, half arsed chasing down of players, the PL season is over, it's felt flat for months , same old story, same as the past two seasons, fucking garbage and that's after spending another £150m in the close season, the defence get stick but it's not the only problem.

Fucking mard arses.

De Bruyne is the one who pisses me off the most when it comes to this. Shirking challenges all over the pitch, not tracking back at all (2nd goal came from a passage of play where he was just ball watching)

He is in the side for his one or two bits of magic that he has but with a defence as shit as ours, it ain't enough.

 

[OB1]

I believe he's our future captain.

So do I.

 

[aguerooooo]

Why did Navas get in for Zabba He wont give Vinny a chance will he? is it because he hasnt had enough practice playing Peps Hot Potato suicide game at the back Its not for those blues with shitty pants syndrome A win today still would not have put us back in the race, but would give a bit of hope if we gained 6pts in London Its possibly due to the players not knowing this what else could explain the fact we played with
no verve commitment ,or a will to win, which pisses me right off,

 

[Blue Hefner]

who gives a fuck we could have 4 world beaters but with a defence made of glass we will never win anything

Completely agree. More or less every shot goes in against us. There is no need for teams to put us under pressure, because we are only one attack/shot from the game changing - if they keep it tight or ride thier luck then they will always be in with a chance

Goals change games, and we let too many in

 

[Metalartin]

Haha so in one sentance you say you dont care what i belive and then int he next you expect someone to belive what you are saying...no point in debate i see

I didt day luiz deserved to stay on the pitch....he should have gone....but that wasnt the reason we lost the chelski game....we lost it cause we missed chances and we were poor defemsively .....

keep making excuses as when people do this (and if pep is doing it - i dont know that he is) then we wont improve on that performance and i can genuinely say that there was a lot to improve on in that perfomrnace from our perspective and improving on it we would have won....
1) retaining possession better....especailly with balls out from the back 4 into midfield...either the pass was poor or the person collecting the ball ( a lot of this was KDB) wasnt good enough
2......poor passing whe moving into spaces where chances could have materliased if the passess 1-2 passes before the final pass wpuld have come should have been better.
3. better defending - clichy falling alseep, ottomendi not charging around like a moron, better markign from corners

all the above we can effect.....go into games relying on getting refereeing decisoins will not help us improve

It really appears you'd "rather take a loss so the cracks don't get papered over"... I've made it clear why that's the wrong attitude to have, as if Pep would not go over everything they did wrong regardless of a win... it's how he is, he goes into more detail than most managers out there don't worry about that. Stop making out you're the only one who see's the problems we have, it doesn't excuse shite referee decisions... the chances are we would have had two more points today with Yaya on the pitch to take a pen. So yes they do often directly cost us points... regardless of how we are playing at the time you're too focused on it to the point where you genuinely believe it doesn't matter, it does matter, a red card or late penalty are pivotal moments in any game, we'd still be saying it wasn't a great game but that's a different issue you don't use one to excuse the other.

 

[OB1]

De Bruyne is the one who pisses me off the most when it comes to this. Shirking challenges all over the pitch, not tracking back at all (2nd goal came from a passage of play where he was just ball watching)

He is in the side for his one or two bits of magic that he has but with a defence as shit as ours, it ain't enough.

He's just inconsistent on every level.

 

[Rammy Blue]

The problem with Kev is that he's just not fit, he was blowing out of his arse after the first 10 mins.

 

[moon]

Had to laugh that Wegner didn't see the late handball claim
but did spot the 2 very tight offside calls for our goals at the Etihad

 

[herrock]

Clichy, De Bruyne & Yaya should all get criticism for that. How can a defender with years of experience , play them onside like that and tackle like that too. Although he played a great pass for the 1st goal, for most of the game De Bruyne was dreadful, gave the ball away countless times & didn't track back before the 2nd goal. Yaya slowed things up too much & was another who couldn't be arsed to mark anyone. Very disappointing because Arsenal were poor. On a bright note, Aguero is looking sharper.

 

[uwe rosler 28]

Sterling was awful didn't look up for it! Thought stones,Navas,and clichy played well apart from Clichy mistake for there first goal! Sane looked dangerous but that apart the rest were poor diniho can not pass and kept getting caught on the ball. Passing was poor as was decision making,finishing and nervousness!!! We should have wrapped the game up first 20mins but thats the same old story!!! Game defining moment was the aguero missed header at 2-1 oh and yet again a big decision goes goes against us!!!!

 

[Blue Smarties]

Starting to feel a lot like the end of Manuel's season. Instead of knowing the manager is getting the axe, this time round it's several members of the squad. Clearly has an impact mentally in terms of effort on the pitch, even if they wouldn't dream of admitting it.

Thank fuck we're still in the FA Cup. Every week feels like we're stumbling towards the end of the season.

 

[flb]

De Bruyne is the one who pisses me off the most when it comes to this. Shirking challenges all over the pitch, not tracking back at all (2nd goal came from a passage of play where he was just ball watching)

He is in the side for his one or two bits of magic that he has but with a defence as shit as ours, it ain't enough.

He half pulls out of tackles , his passing was fucking shocking at times today , Aguero gets lambasted for allegedly not performing to Peps standards , well Kevin is nowhere near good enough in certain aspects of his game for a real Pep player- he deserves stick for it tbh, every time he loses the ball he ambles back half speed.

It's a team of prima donnas, they think they've fucking made it signing for City.

 

[PragueBlue]

De Bruyne is the one who pisses me off the most when it comes to this. Shirking challenges all over the pitch, not tracking back at all (2nd goal came from a passage of play where he was just ball watching)

He is in the side for his one or two bits of magic that he has but with a defence as shit as ours, it ain't enough.

Pretty much sums him up of late. Not sure the deeper role suits him to be honest.

 

[blueinsa]

The problem with Kev is that he's just not fit, he was blowing out of his arse after the first 10 mins.

Dare i say it but he looks like he carries a little bit of timber which given the stance Pep took over Nasri would be surprising.

 

[OB1]

who gives a fuck we could have 4 world beaters but with a defence made of glass we will never win anything

I give a fuck. I want the squad strengthening in every area. One player upfront of the likes of Sanchez would have a multiplier effect in respect of our forward play. That leaves plenty of budget to improve the defensive options.

 

[daztrueblue91]

The Champions League is absolutely vital. Liverpool aren't even in the Europa League whilst Spurs European season was a shambles. Who did Utd blood in te Europa league. City v Monaco and City v Barcelona are what it is all about. But the carelessness today was unacceptable

For all of the performances we have put in like Monaco and Barca at home, I can think of double the amount of shite performances we have put in.

I'm talking about those sides being in the Europa League over the past few years. Rashford got his big chance in the Europa League. I doubt he'd have got the same chance in the CL. You might class Spurs' EL season a few seasons back as a shambles but it had a bigger picture. It gave players like Kane a platform to stake a claim for the a regular place in the first team.

The likes of Maffeo, Garcia, Tosin and Roberts would get plenty of game time if we were in the Europa League, we would also prioritise the PL which is crucial IMO. We need to go all out for that next season. That's the bread and butter.