My point was more if they were to win a referendum they wouldn't be going alone because they could only win and become independent if it was to become a member of some sort of the EU, either a full member or a ' Norway' sort of deal.You missed the point, i wasnt talking about the chances of a second ref. Just mps justification and optimism as to how well they would do on their own compared to his 180 degree stance on the uk.
how old are you?
Owned my arse.
We will only get independence if we get the green light about rejoining. We know that.
Like you, we would choose being skint for a while as a price to run out own affairs.
We think we can survive better in the EU. We might not even win but brexut is too big not to have a vote on after 63% remain.
Totally owned im affraid. You are just too stupid to realise your own hypocrisy.
The UK voted brexit and you chose to remain part of the uk. Once in a lifetime remeber that little saying? Who says its too big a decision ? You sturgeon and few crack pot nationalists who cant run Scotland properly even with a big subsidy from the rest of the UK? oh thats ok then lol.
Just wish we all had a vote and you whinging Scots would be out on your sorry arse before you knew it.
I'm just too stupid and gullible to realise.
And we will see who ends up on their arse.
If bad things happen after brexit what will your excuse be oh omnipotent one?
I take it you consider yourself neither gullible or stupid, your so lucky, how will you explain any economic woe that may come?
We actually move up the table of richest countries if we go Indy. Look that up.
Your view of us scrounging is a crock. You will see exactly how important our contribution has always been when it's no longer available.
These last years have been hard the world over. We have assets and a £190b economy for 5 million people. We will be fine.
If it wasn't going to be bad, the minister for Brexit wouldn't be talking about mitigation measures, would he?We dont know it would economically bad. The report deoesnt say that does it. No one knows. Stop twisting things and making stuff up to suit your negative pessimistic anti brexit agenda.
.There is a terrible sense of inferiority in here displayed by quite a few leave posters but it boils down to this, leave is not a rational choice it is an emotional one. It is no less valid for it but it is not based on facts, on economic self interest, or even a rationale analysis of our role in the world. It is based on a "sense" of destiny a "feeling" that the EU is about to collapse, a "yearning" to be free from something or other wrapped in a burning negative "view" of the nature and structure of the EU.
No leaver here knows what our negotiators are striving for over in Brussels because no one knows what a "good deal" looks like, but the facts point out there is no good deal only a choice between terrible and a disaster.
If it wasn't going to be bad, the minister for Brexit wouldn't be talking about mitigation measures, would he?
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So its "Rational" to let others (Who do not have your interests as a priority and are not accountable to you) make decisions that directly impact your everyday life is it ?.
If you choose the people who make decisions and have recourse to hire and fire them if they dont do the job then they have far more incentive, thats a fact.
Any deal is better than one dictated by others, including the walk away if terms are not right for US, if you went into a shop and they said "we will only sell/buy from you if you leave your door open every night" the words fu*k off would be thrown over your shoulder on the way out, thats another fact (Unless you are hard of thinking).
We are a nation that has done far more than ok in the many generations before the f*cking EU, its a parasite that produces nothing but dictates and takes a chunk of cash for the privilege, we dont need it, we dont want it.
There is a terrible sense of inferiority in here displayed by quite a few leave posters but it boils down to this, leave is not a rational choice it is an emotional one. It is no less valid for it but it is not based on facts, on economic self interest, or even a rationale analysis of our role in the world.
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So its "Rational" to let others (Who do not have your interests as a priority and are not accountable to you) make decisions that directly impact your everyday life is it ?.
If you choose the people who make decisions and have recourse to hire and fire them if they dont do the job then they have far more incentive, thats a fact.
Any deal is better than one dictated by others, including the walk away if terms are not right for US, if you went into a shop and they said "we will only sell/buy from you if you leave your door open every night" the words fu*k off would be thrown over your shoulder on the way out, thats another fact (Unless you are hard of thinking).
We are a nation that has done far more than ok in the many generations before the f*cking EU, its a parasite that produces nothing but dictates and takes a chunk of cash for the privilege, we dont need it, we dont want it.
Haha. The last few years havent been that hard for UK ltd check the gdp figures out. Its just the hilly bit north of the border that the rest of us prop up thats seemingly struggling. And who Sturgeon and the rest of her cronies like you try and blame on the uk.
You are sooooo desparate for us to fail. Its pathetic. Not one once of backbone or gumption in you. A life on social security handouts springs to mind.
I am actually not desperate for you to fail. I hope you do ok and things turn out well.
I'm not a **** who wishes bad things to happen to people just because I don't agree with them.
As for gumption and backbone?
I do fine on both mate.
It may well be that with the lurch to the political right, emotion has now taken over in the emotion vs facts debate.This is patronising claptrap and a very good reason why left wing politics is currently collapsing in on itself all around the world.
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So its "Rational" to let others (Who do not have your interests as a priority and are not accountable to you) make decisions that directly impact your everyday life is it ?.
If you choose the people who make decisions and have recourse to hire and fire them if they dont do the job then they have far more incentive, thats a fact.
Any deal is better than one dictated by others, including the walk away if terms are not right for US, if you went into a shop and they said "we will only sell/buy from you if you leave your door open every night" the words fu*k off would be thrown over your shoulder on the way out, thats another fact (Unless you are hard of thinking).
We are a nation that has done far more than ok in the many generations before the f*cking EU, its a parasite that produces nothing but dictates and takes a chunk of cash for the privilege, we dont need it, we dont want it.
It may well be that with the lurch to the political right, emotion has now taken over in the emotion vs facts debate.
That's what the fumble appears to be saying.
Why is it patronizing claptrap?
This is patronising claptrap and a very good reason why left wing politics is currently collapsing in on itself all around the world.
Aren't you an advocate of one world government? Then I bow to a man who knows all about claptrap.
It may well be that with the lurch to the political right, emotion has now taken over in the emotion vs facts debate.