It's Quiet - a new dawn

[bornblueegg]

Yes it is, the timing is perfect, the reason the squad needs such an overhaul is because we've dragged our heals in the past and not kept things fresh. There's value in selling Aguero now otherwise he'll just stay and go stale on huge wages and harder to shift ala Yaya. We've had the best out of him so now's the time to cash in on him, we need to move with the style and times.

A front three and the movement of Sane......Aubameyang........Jesus, now that's got the juices flowing!

My heart says NO

My head says dominate for years to come

 

[FantasyIreland]

Yes it is, the timing is perfect, the reason the squad needs such an overhaul is because we've dragged our heals in the past and not kept things fresh. There's value in selling Aguero now otherwise he'll just stay and go stale on huge wages and harder to shift ala Yaya. We've had the best out of him so now's the time to cash in on him, we need to move with the style and times.

A front three and the movement of Sane......Aubameyang........Jesus, now that's got the juices flowing!

The forum needs a like button :-)

 

[simon23]

Because there's a flaw in the first choice, hence we're actively looking to change it...

I'd take that last 3 now without hesitation, it will be the best front 3 in world football in 12 months

I think people are getting way ahead of themselves on sterling..he has hugely improved but I don't think he will go much beyond what the is now.....his finishing is still poor.

Sane and Jesus....well there is no telling how far they could go.......esp GJ so I agree with you on those two.....

People on here are again talking about peps comments on our poor finishing but Sergio is by far the leading goal scorer and I've said a couple of times now the others need to make a big step up.....Sane was very guilty at the weekend of missing a sitter (coincidently set up by Kun)...that was before we had even scored (the own goal), sterlings finishing has always been wayward.....silva - its his only weakness and one highlighted by Pep himself in his recent comments about silva and KDB's goa return is poor this season and he looks more than anyone to be struggling to adapt to new a new role in the team.....his performance for the huge majority of the season have been poor and have been notably getting worse.

Id say Kun and GJ are the only two natural finishers we have

Kun has shown he can (and has) adapted to what Pep wants (again the words of Pep himself this weekend)

I don't see any reason to buy sanchez and sell Kun......we don't improve our goal return for starters and if you listen to the arsenal fans, sanchez is also wasted playing anywhere outwide and it takes away from his natural game.....(thats the arsenal fans opinions anyway)....Kun has adapted to what Pep wants so why sell him? It doesn't improve our attacking play if you stick Sanchez in there in his place. The only positive Sanchez has over Kun is the comparable injury records ....and event there Kun this season has been doing pretty well compared to other seasons.

 

[simon23]

My heart says NO

My head says dominate for years to come

The ceo of BMG has said only Madrid and Barca will turn the players and clubs heads.....could be just playing mind games however

 

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

If this is true then there is no real reason to go after Sanchez.

I believe a lot of people like you are falsely scapegoating Aguero for not finishing chances. Yea he's missed more than normal but he's also the only one finishing at all, outside of Sane ( who is doing quite well after his first few months but is still nowhere near Agueros clinical level).

Replacing Aguero with Jesus next year might lead to a lot goals but it won't be because of Jesus, it will be because of our vastly improved stability at the back giving the front more freedom to expand the space around the box because we have the skill to set up shop further up the field.

There's going to be a rude awakening if Aguero leaves and we have no consistent goal scorer outside of three 21 years olds.

There will always be moments where the perfectly laid out plan doesn't work in which case you need magic. Aguero is magic.

I'm not sure anybody else is. Sanchez sure isn't.

Unfortunately you see the man and not the team -'collectively they have made a pigs ear, however, the chances have been still forthcoming and we have lacked being clinical. Aguero, sane, sterling, silva, KDB, are all culpable so please don't put words in my mouth, there's a good boy...

The reason Sanchez is being linked isn't anything to do with agueros lack of goals, it's his inability (at present) to adapt. Pep likes variation up top, with his attackers able to play numerous positions across the line, aguero simply (at present) doesn't look able to play with as much fluidity as those mentioned.... pace is a killer in this system if you haven't got it....

 

[simon23]

Yes it is, the timing is perfect, the reason the squad needs such an overhaul is because we've dragged our heals in the past and not kept things fresh. There's value in selling Aguero now otherwise he'll just stay and go stale on huge wages and harder to shift ala Yaya. We've had the best out of him so now's the time to cash in on him, we need to move with the style and times.

A front three and the movement of Sane......Aubameyang........Jesus, now that's got the juices flowing!

Yaya has hardly gone stale...he has been very good this season and improved on last season....thats not exactly gone stale is it......Yaya has done enough for this club to leave with his head held high and with our best wishes. He has had his bad moments but they are far outweighed but he good ones and some of the most important in our clubs history

 

[simon23]

Unfortunately you see the man and not the team -'collectively they have made a pigs ear, however, the chances have been still forthcoming and we have lacked being clinical. Aguero, sane, sterling, silva, KDB, are all culpable so please don't put words in my mouth, there's a good boy...

The reason Sanchez is being linked isn't anything to do with agueros lack of goals, it's his inability (at present) to adapt. Pep likes variation up top, with his attackers able to play numerous positions across the line, aguero simply (at present) doesn't look able to play with as much fluidity as those mentioned.... pace is a killer in this system if you haven't got it....

Yet Pep has said how pleased he is with he way aguero has adapted...he said it after the least match.....

The arsenal fans aren't happy with Sanchez contribution out wide either...saying he is wasted there.

 

[BAB.DAB]

It really is starting to baffle me how some people actually would not mind Aguero go. I suppose that is the modern day Manchester City fan as opposed to the Maine Road die hard fan.

Just sit and think about what Aguero has achieved for us and how many goals he scores for us, then think carefully if you want to see him leave the club. Completely and utterly bonkers.

As for Alexis, said it all along get him signed up. Brilliant player.

I don't think any blue wants Aguero to go more of a question that they wouldn't be surprised if Aguero leave's in the summer and for that reason they are pointing out his faults
So not knocking him, explain why he could be leaving

 

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

It really is starting to baffle me how some people actually would not mind Aguero go. I suppose that is the modern day Manchester City fan as opposed to the Maine Road die hard fan.

Just sit and think about what Aguero has achieved for us and how many goals he scores for us, then think carefully if you want to see him leave the club. Completely and utterly bonkers.

As for Alexis, said it all along get him signed up. Brilliant player.

Hold on, so you're the more diehard because your opinion differs??

Brilliant

 

[mosssideblue]

We could have a Forward line of Jesus - Aguero - Sanchez next year.

Why isn't anybody talking about that?

That's exponentially better than Sane -Jesus -Sterling.

Exponentially, give over. I personally don't think it is even better

 

[doobyedoobye]

Kun is trying to adapt but his lack of versatility across the front three clearly worries Pep hence all this smoke and fire

 

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

Yet Pep has said how pleased he is with he way aguero has adapted...he said it after the least match.....

The arsenal fans aren't happy with Sanchez contribution out wide either...saying he is wasted there.

Simon that is as naïve as it gets.... he would want aguero to stay, I have no doubt, and as stated by pep earlier in the season, that will be down to Kun, however, he isn't going to publicly flog the guy ffs, he's a legend in the eyes of any blue, that we all agree on but he (kun) won't be staying here to sit on the bench imo and that is a distinct possibility considering the way we are trying to play.....

 

[Danamy]

Yaya has hardly gone stale...he has been very good this season and improved on last season....thats not exactly gone stale is it......Yaya has done enough for this club to leave with his head held high and with our best wishes. He has had his bad moments but they are far outweighed but he good ones and some of the most important in our clubs history

It's just one example of keeping hold of a player 1-2 seasons too long to get the best out of the market. It's like owning a car, there becomes a time when you have to make a decision to cash in on the asset or run it into the ground until the engine goes and then you have to buy a new model. My personal preference would be to cash in on the asset before the engine blows, but that's just my opinion.

 

[simon23]

Simon that is as naïve as it gets.... he would want aguero to stay, I have no doubt, and as stated by pep earlier in the season, that will be down to Kun, however, he isn't going to publicly flog the guy ffs, he's a legend in the eyes of any blue, that we all agree on but he (kun) won't be staying here to sit on the bench imo and that is a distinct possibility considering the way we are trying to play.....

do you not think he would take a bit of rotation at least

kun sanchez sterling sane and GJ.....3 players for 5 positions

we are pretty sure that GJ can be effective anywhere across the front 3

we know sterling will never be a central striker.....he just wont

Kun and sanchez...both more effective centrally but both have shown an ability to play anywhere in the front 3

Sane....at moment his best position is out wide.....can he play centrally?????...no one knows yet....he does remind me of fake ronaldo (ugh!!!) when he was young so going off that alone then he probably can (he will have to learn to be a lot better in the air however to emulate the fake one however)

so thats two that are better centrally (sanchez and Kun)

one whose only position is ever going to be wide (sterling)

Sane and GJ who can play anywhere.

The only cat amongst the pigeons is signing a player like Llorente who offers something completely different than any of them

Kun will only want to leave if he is made to feel that he wont play regularly (thats basically what peps comments are about)....signing sanchez may do this so why again do it? he doesn't offer more goals or even better flexibility (again both are better centrally and their effectiveness, although they can do it, is reduced by playing anywhere else

The other question you haven't addressed is the lack of goals from elsewhere in the team ..........sell run we are going to have to make up 25-30 goals a season (across all the comps)...thats a lot of improving the rest have to do

Id happily keep Kun and see him play in the same team as GJ and Sane for a season...if it doesn't come off then fine, but it aint even been given a chance yet

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Sanchez has that eye of the tiger, something we haven't had since Tevez.

If you think about Barcelona, the opposition create their own mistakes, trying to legislate for the quality across all the front positions.

Personally, for Sterling, KDB and Sane to now go to the next level with Pep, they need Kun out of the way and to learn from Sanchez and Jesus.

Both who are experts at closing the space between the lines.

Our press from the front is still absolutely pathetic, barring a couple of token gestures.

 

[simon23]

It's just one example of keeping hold of a player 1-2 seasons too long to get the best out of the market. It's like owning a car, there becomes a time when you have to make a decision to cash in on the asset or run it into the ground until the engine goes and then you have to buy a new model. My personal preference would be to cash in on the asset before the engine blows, but that's just my opinion.

i think talking about players as assets esp ones who have been instrumental in our success over the last few years is slightly disrespectful...i don't disagree with the fact that its the to replace Yaya.....but i don't think you put it across in the best way..

i do believe it would be a mistake to replace augero with Sanchez however.....

 

[Phil1]

Jesus, the way some talk about Aguero is laughable.

 

[birchwoodgingerste]

Jesus, the way some talk about Aguero is laughable.

I know sound like rags we'd be a poorer team without him

 

[Danamy]

i think talking about players as assets esp ones who have been instrumental in our success over the last few years is slightly disrespectful...i don't disagree with the fact that its the to replace Yaya.....but i don't think you put it across in the best way..

i do believe it would be a mistake to replace augero with Sanchez however.....

We both want what's best for the club, i just think certain decisions can hold the club back and i feel this could be one of them.

As a business all players are assets and there's no loyalty when it comes to decisions that could slow your business down or prevent you from meeting your goals. Apologies if i upset you by talking about players in that way but it's fact.

 

[Danamy]

Jesus, the way some talk about Aguero is laughable.

Huge decision if they decide to get rid of him but in my opinion it's the right one, your opinion is it's the wrong decision but that's fine, it's no biggy?

It's just a conflict of opinion, it happens all the time on football forums.........