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simon23 said:
in todays market where most players are 40m + that 200m does get you a lot really...........crazy when you think about it.....

walker and rose could account for nearly half of that......gie or take 10mill

we still need a goal keeper, a midfielder or 2 and a centre half

Id sell:
Bravo
Navas (is he a free agent?)
Kolarov
Ottomendi
Kelechi
Nasri
Mangala
clichy

Bony - is he out of contract to go free?


zabba - out of contract
Yaya - out of contract

probably one that most wouldn't agree with is KDB...id sell him as well as the more i watch him this season its clear he doesn't fit with Peps system......

renew Caballero - he is better as a second than Bravo

the savings on that lot should add more to the pot just on wages alone.
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Bravo & Otamendi will not be going anywhere.

Unless we get a mad offer for Nico he won't leave.
 
Peps got far too many problems and positions to be worrying about to be thinking about selling Aguero and adding another position that needs to be filled.

Kun and Jesus are by far enough next season at CF position to get us over the line next season.
 
Jazzman said:
That's what I meant when I wrote before that I understand why we might be looking at Pickford rather than Ederson. Saving 20 million on the keeper might be required for our puzzle to work out. And if Pep has decided to give Bravo another chance as first choice keeper we might not actually need a guy like Ederson.
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If Pep has decided to keep Bravo as first choice we'll need to brick the fucking goal up never mind signing any players.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
hes got pretty much got one of the best goal scoring records in england. no striker is going to score every chance they get. 30 goals this season, you can't get much better then that.
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Yep agree with you but that record would be much much greater if he wasn't injured or banned & this season he has been frustrating in front of goal.

Everton, Boro, Liverpool, UTD, Spurs, Monaco home & away only a few mentioned where he was off target many times.

I would like to see play with Jesus & Sanchez but that ain't going to happen.
 
The Riot Club said:
If Pep has decided to keep Bravo as first choice we'll need to brick the fucking goal up never mind signing any players.
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No way he banks on Bravo alone. There's way too much at stake for Pep next year for such a risky gamble.

Perhaps @tolmie's hairdoo can back me up on this, but I have a feeling Pep will be out for blood and our incomings will be all proven quality, with the title in mind. Again, I'd be very surprised if the club is going to deny him the very best squad, that fits his style, that is available.
 
richards30 said:
Ederson @ £40m
Walker @ £40m
Mendy £30m
Sanchez @ £45m
VVD or Bonnuci @ £50m

Gross spend £205m?

Surely the £200m tolm mentioned is a maximum net spend? Still think even with that group of players we are a world class midfielder short?
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I would replace Ederson with Fabinho on that list, only because I think a new player for the DM position is more important that a new keeper.
Further I would buy Sanchez only if Kun leaves. On the assumption that he does we will have what we can make on his sale on top of the 200 million. I actually think the team will be stronger with Sanchez replacing Kun, because all 4 attacking players (Sterling, Sane, Gabriel Jesus and Sanchez) are very flexible, giving us a more fluid attack that with Kun.
On the numbers I think you are too low with Walker and Sanchez, so on the assumption that Kun leaves we can afford the 5 new players.
 
harvo the blue said:
Yep agree with you but that record would be much much greater if he wasn't injured or banned & this season he has been frustrating in front of goal.

Everton, Boro, Liverpool, UTD, Spurs, Monaco home & away only a few mentioned where he was off target many times.

I would like to see play with Jesus & Sanchez but that ain't going to happen.
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Not only is it not going to happen but I think Aguero is a better player than Sanchez.
 
rollingnakedinmoney said:
How about

Walker (26 yrs) £50m
Rose (26yrs) £50
Pickford (23 yrs) £20
VVD (25 yrs) £50
Kieran Tierney (19 yrs) £20m
Eric Dier (23 yrs) or Weigl (21 yrs) £50

Gross spend=£240 with an English backbone.

Sell Hart, Bravo, Nolito, Mangala, Bony, Nasri; Fernando, Delph and maybe Iheanacho for about £80m

Add the £10m remaining from the original £250 (that they say Pep will have) to the £80m or whatever we can get from the sales of these players, and you get £90m more spend.

Then bring back Maffeo (19 yrs) and maybe Enes Unal (19 yrs).

Then we'll have

GK: Pickford/Rulli
RB: Walker/Maffeo
CB: VVD/Kompany/Stones/Otamendi/Kolarov
LB: Rose/Kieran
DM: Dier or Weigl/Yaya/Fernandinho/Gundogan/Garcia
CM: De Bruyne/Silva/Gundogan/Fernandinho/Yaya/Foden/Diaz
FW: Sterling/Sane/Aguero/Jesus/Unal/Sancho

We could use that additional £90-100 for someone up front like Sanchez (or someone else) or for another creative midfielder like Isco (or someone like him).

Just in theory, doesn't work in real life.
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No way, we shouldn't give Spurs £150m to work with
 
Akiva said:
No way he banks on Bravo alone. There's way too much at stake for Pep next year for such a risky gamble.

Perhaps @tolmie's hairdoo can back me up on this, but I have a feeling Pep will be out for blood and our incomings will be all proven quality, with the title in mind. Again, I'd be very surprised if the club is going to deny him the very best squad, that fits his style, that is available.
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I don't like the thought either, but I can't really see us spending 40+ million on Ederson without making him our first choice keeper. On the other hand I can't see Bravo accepting being number 2, so the Bravo/Ederson combination is hard to see.
 
Zubrman said:
So then we can let Sanya, Clichy, Mangala and Zabaleta leave at the end of the season, or is that a four gone conclusion?
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Clichy, Zabaleta and Sagna are all out of contract and will most certainly leave.

Kolarov will probably stay as he still has one year left, but he will be a reserve central defender if anything I think.

Mangala will be a player we will see we can some transfer funds from. I also would not rule out a swap for Gaya, his teammate at Valencia who can play left back.
 
Jazzman said:
I don't like the thought either, but I can't really see us spending 40+ million on Ederson without making him our first choice keeper. On the other hand I can't see Bravo accepting being number 2, so the Bravo/Ederson combination is hard to see.
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I see your point, but Bravo was always a stop-gap in many ways, never the long term (young) keeper Pep wanted. I think Ter Stegen was probably our first choice last summer and we ended up accepting Bravo.

You're probably right that Bravo won't be sold, and it seems from reports he wants to stay and make a success of it, but I'm not convinced Pep will stomach another season of question marks in a position arguably he would rather not deal with at all.

Serg10Aguero said:
Fucks sake, we're not getting Ederson are we. Bravo is going to be No1 next season with Pickford
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There's a lot of smoke for there to be no fire on Ederson, but people have a point when they bring up the likelihood of Pickford being a third of the cost. That's a big gamble for Pep, but if it's a difference maker in meeting our targets elsewhere...

Still, there's just way too much to suggest it's Ederson though, he's the perfect fit for what we're building too.
 
Serg10Aguero said:
Fucks sake, we're not getting Ederson are we. Bravo is going to be No1 next season with Pickford
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The fee Benfica wants is ridiculous considering he has only ever played in Portugal.

We have too many positions - likely 6 or 7 - to fill and can't blow £40m-£50m on them all.

Pickford for all the goals his side have conceded has been one of the better goalkeepers in the league this season and is at least proven in English football. City and Pep must have seen something that they like.
 
BAB.DAB said:
Some aspects of KDB game need to improve but for me he always wants the ball and trys to pass the ball forward quickly which is what I like about him
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It's funny that, because him not always wanting the ball is my main criticism of him. In the derby he completely disappeared for long spells and was offering no option to the defenders or Yaya. He does it often. Even last season when he was flying, in tight spaces against packed defences, he wasn't interested in receiving the ball and regularly hides and goes missing.

He does try to pass the ball forwards and quickly, no doubt about that, and he's brilliant at it when he's counter attacking in to huge spaces. But when he's in tight spaces he's often not interested in receiving the ball, and that's what makes him a level or two below Silva.
 
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