It's Quiet - a new dawn

[OB1]

what like pullis :)

some people on this forum detest pep for some reason,and even imo want him to fail think this stems from the hart decision

No, it's because they don't like his haircut.

 

[Jazzman]

Sergio would have to be 60-70 mill minimum so that's 260mill. That doesn't include any other sales such as Bony - not sure if they are in the 200.

So Walker and VVD - look like 90-100 mill
Left back - 30mill Mendy?
Sanchez would be 50-60mill
keeper - 40 mill?

That's over 200mill - possibly one more top striker / midfielder

Defensively a lot stronger which also helps midfield - we also have Gundogan (like a new signing) Jesus (same)

I would expect front 3 to be Sane - Jesus and sanchez , Sterling back-up

I think we would defo be a stronger team than now.

That's what I meant when I wrote before that I understand why we might be looking at Pickford rather than Ederson. Saving 20 million on the keeper might be required for our puzzle to work out. And if Pep has decided to give Bravo another chance as first choice keeper we might not actually need a guy like Ederson.

 

[_OVO_]

i don't get why the "blame" for this is being laid at sergios door...he is the only one scoring goals ...the midfield of sterling sane KDB (especially) and silva are extremely culpable...they don't get in positions to score or when they do make a complete hash of it...none of this is down to sergio at all......yes he could have scored more but he is the only one whoever looks like scoring on a regular basis....(by all accounts GJ was poor yesterday...i didnt see the gam but going off the reports on here and elsewhere)......

we are again going to put all our eggs into one basket...we have made this mistake this season WITH sergio...ie relied on him too much....yet we are going to sell him and rely on a 20 year old kid and potentially sanchez who has never been as prolific as Sergio....

Its a huge gamble and one which i think will define Peps time here.....hope he gets it right as if he doesn't he will be hung out to dry and he will only have himself to blame....he half fucked up the keeper situation...whether it was he right thing to sell hart is one thing....but the replacement is ALL on him and he has been an abject failure...the worse keeper in our recent history and the worst in the prem at present.

Very good post. I agree, others need to step up as well, Kun does miss chances but he's normally the only one scoring them as well.

 

[city2]

These fans calling on to let Sergio go, careful what you wish for he is our greatest goal scorer you will probably ever see in a city shirt and you want him to go, give your fcking heads a wobble and go and stand in front of the mirror and remind yourselves of the world class strikers we have had at this club in the last 40 years.

Jesus is potential that's all, Sergio is at his peak, so we sell him and next season when we don't score enough goals the same fans who want to move him on will the the first on here to say why did we sell Sergio, we never replaced negredo, we never replaced dzeko, we never replaced tevez, we never replaced Bellamy so just how the fck do we replace Sergio.

 

[OB1]

These fans calling on to let Sergio go, careful what you wish for he is our greatest goal scorer you will probably ever see in a city shirt and you want him to go, give your fcking heads a wobble and go and stand in front of the mirror and remind yourselves of the world class strikers we have had at this club in the last 40 years.

Jesus is potential that's all, Sergio is at his peak, so we sell him and next season when we don't score enough goals the same fans who want to move him on will the the first on here to say why did we sell Sergio, we never replaced negredo, we never replaced dzeko, we never replaced tevez, we never replaced Bellamy so just how the fck do we replace Sergio.

Is Sergio at his peak? His goal scoring efficiency isn't.

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

Sergio leaving will not be down to City

It will more than likely be Sergio wanting to leave

City won't stand in his way

That's my take on it

 

[Thaksinssoldier]

as do aguero, sane , sterling from time to time. should we sell all of them swell ? i nthe majority of our big games kdb sets up the goals or scores. the majority of players in football aren't going to perform every week.

But that's not what was said. KDB is not a world class player. On his day, he's top 5, but those days come in chunks rather than consistently.

He also has the luxury of a freer role in our system than Kun or our wingers, who are man marked and double teamed. Their merits are a side issue anyways, but KDB is nowhere near being consistent enough. If we get Sanchez in, it's Kev & Raheem that will feel the pressure.

 

[BlueDeadHead]

Is Sergio at his peak? His goal scoring efficiency isn't.

Nope his worst season with us by some measure.

 

[richards30]

Ederson @ £40m
Walker @ £40m
Mendy £30m
Sanchez @ £45m
VVD or Bonnuci @ £50m

Gross spend £205m?

Surely the £200m tolm mentioned is a maximum net spend? Still think even with that group of players we are a world class midfielder short?

 

[Akiva]

Ederson @ £40m
Walker @ £40m
Mendy £30m
Sanchez @ £45m
VVD or Bonnuci @ £50m

Gross spend £205m?

Surely the £200m tolm mentioned is a maximum net spend? Still think even with that group of players we are a world class midfielder short?

We won't get less than 6 players for the first team, IMO. Too many outgoings.

I believe Tolmie has said 8 would be the number.

 

[MadchesterCity]

Give it a listen cause it's good. Here's the gist anyway -

• Sanchez is nailed on if Arsenal are willing to sell to a top 4 rival. Sanchez prefers Pep and Pep likes him a lot. If Arsenal throw a hissy fit like Levy though, then it won't happen.
• City very much interested in Danny Rose and Walker. It would be impossible to sign both, but Spurs might be forced to sell one because the burgeoning cost of their new stadium is a real issue (~ 1 billion pounds). Because it's Levy, it might be a long drawn out affair. But if Spurs are ready to sell, City will have him in a heartbeat as Pep is a big fan of both.
• Pickford interest is genuine and he is more nailed on than Ederson. If Willy doesn't sign a new contract (as a backup to Bravo), we're pretty much set to land him.
• Bravo isn't going anywhere next season and will be the default No. 1 unless Pickford/Willy usurp based on better performance in training or pre-season matches.
• City 100% want Kun to stay, but he wants to be the guaranteed starter in most games, if not all, especially the big games. If Pep can't guarantee him that, then he will leave. So his future is tied to how much Pep rates and trusts Jesus. Bottom line is that Kun is not ready to play second fiddle and would leave for greener pastures if that happens.
• Mbappe deal is tied to Kun. If Kun stays, we won't go for Mbappe. If he leaves, we'll get him at any cost.

Well that's hugely dissapointing news

 

[richards30]

We won't get less than 6 players for the first team, IMO. Too many outgoings.

I believe Tolmie has said 8 would be the number.

Agreed mate! It has to be our most successful summer ever to get a pep team

 

[hcblue95]

I will be so confused if Pep wants Pickford. He's surely not that good with his feet. Has anyone watched much of Rulli? I heard he was doing well at one stage.

 

[Brightwell’s left peg]

Then i would still be fuming as it would be a result of Pep, power tripping and gambling like when he kicked Deco and Ronaldinho out of Barca.

Yeah, you'd have thought Pep would have learnt by now.

Imagine being left to watch Messi, Iniesta and Xavi prance around the pitch instead.

Barcelona fans are still fuming I expect.

 

[richards30]

I will be so confused if Pep wants Pickford. He's surely not that good with his feet. Has anyone watched much of Rulli? I heard he was doing well at one stage.

I can't understand the Pickford link either mate to be honest. Ederson is by far a better fit for us but there has been rumours that with the joint ownership with him maybe the club have baulked at the bigger fee?

 

[Yates]

yeah i get that.....sanchz has never been prolific as Kun. no younger, build up play better but scores less......therefore in my mind he isn't an improvement

We could actually be seeing Sanchez replace any of the players in behind Jesus and if Jesus were to contribute as he has done so far goal wise and Sanchez continues his contribution for us then it'll look better than this season. It's technically Jesus who has come in to Aguero's position and whether Aguero will accept less than a 100% starting role is his decision only.

 

[FJRMCFC]

Alexis is great and all but feel he's being slightly overrated on here. He produces the numbers but watch him consistently and you'll find he's one greedy fucker. He loses the ball more so than any other player at Arsenal AND Barcelona. I'm also finding more and more Arsenal fans saying he's 110% thrice the player as a CF than he is wide, where they find him extremely frustrating.

Just yesterday in the NLD, he lost possession 20 times. More than anyone else on the pitch.

 

[BillyShears]

I can't understand the Pickford link either mate to be honest. Ederson is by far a better fit for us but there has been rumours that with the joint ownership with him maybe the club have baulked at the bigger fee?

I think we're going to have to take a risk somewhere because it's not realistic to spend 40/50 million pounds per player on six or seven players. And that seems to be the starting price for defenders, attackers are even more expensive. The question will be where do we take the risk. I can see why if Pep wants to give Bravo another season which it looks like he does, that we won't spend a massive amount on another keeper, especially if Pickford is available cheap and they rate him (which it sounds like they do).

 

[Yates]

Then i would still be fuming as it would be a result of Pep, power tripping and gambling like when he kicked Deco and Ronaldinho out of Barca.

I absolutely love Ronaldinho but his attitude sucked and it was the right move, they went on to play some of the best football we will ever see and it was successful.

 

[rollingnakedinmoney]

Ederson @ £40m
Walker @ £40m
Mendy £30m
Sanchez @ £45m
VVD or Bonnuci @ £50m

Gross spend £205m?

Surely the £200m tolm mentioned is a maximum net spend? Still think even with that group of players we are a world class midfielder short?

How about

Walker (26 yrs) £50m
Rose (26yrs) £50
Pickford (23 yrs) £20
VVD (25 yrs) £50
Kieran Tierney (19 yrs) £20m
Eric Dier (23 yrs) or Weigl (21 yrs) £50

Gross spend=£240 with an English backbone.

Sell Hart, Bravo, Nolito, Mangala, Bony, Nasri; Fernando, Delph and maybe Iheanacho for about £80m

Add the £10m remaining from the original £250 (that they say Pep will have) to the £80m or whatever we can get from the sales of these players, and you get £90m more spend.

Then bring back Maffeo (19 yrs) and maybe Enes Unal (19 yrs).

Then we'll have

GK: Pickford/Rulli
RB: Walker/Maffeo
CB: VVD/Kompany/Stones/Otamendi/Kolarov
LB: Rose/Kieran
DM: Dier or Weigl/Yaya/Fernandinho/Gundogan/Garcia
CM: De Bruyne/Silva/Gundogan/Fernandinho/Yaya/Foden/Diaz
FW: Sterling/Sane/Aguero/Jesus/Unal/Sancho

We could use that additional £90-100 for someone up front like Sanchez (or someone else) or for another creative midfielder like Isco (or someone like him).

Just in theory, doesn't work in real life.