Pep: I would have been sacked at Barca or Bayern.

Chippy_boy said:
A bit of a non-story really. Not winning the league at Bayern and not winning it at City are hardly comparable. You'd have to be pretty incompetent to not win it at Bayern when you look at what he took over and their dominance in that league. Winning the PL with an aging and ill-balanced squad is a whole different level of difficulty.
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I agree with this, but every time I say that I remember what I thought in pre-season and what we thought about Pellegrini....

We were going to challenge for the title and pellegrini was not getting the max out of a good group of players
 
Marvin said:
I agree with this, but every time I say that I remember what I thought in pre-season and what we thought about Pellegrini....

We were going to challenge for the title and pellegrini was not getting the max out of a good group of players
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True, but the club has invested a lot of time and money in getting Pep on board - it would be stupid to rip the whole plan up now because we've not mounted a title challenge in his first season. What he's attempting to build at City is something that will leave a long-term legacy. Trophies are hugely important in all that of course, but it's not essential that we had to win one this season.

Anyway, it's a total non-story IMO. Different clubs require different things from their managers and it could be argued that we're less of a sacking club these days than we were before the takeover. Fucking hell, Hughes got nearly 18 months and he wasn't even appointed by the sheikh.
 
Marvin said:
I agree with this, but every time I say that I remember what I thought in pre-season and what we thought about Pellegrini....

We were going to challenge for the title and pellegrini was not getting the max out of a good group of players
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I cannot get away from the feeling that this year - for whatever reason - has been a huge disappointment. I really did think we'd win the league and I was half expecting us to romp it. Fighting for a poor 3rd with nothing in the trophy cabinet is a level of underachievement I could not have imagined. Being so far behind Spurs in particular, is pretty shocking.
 
Marvin said:
Take a look at his goals scored, and assists. He has one gear: jogging. I accept he has been our single-most influential player, but he's way gone. You are seduced by very accurate sideways passing.
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Haha brilliant if you think Yaya's passing both long and short is anything other than world class you really are clueless. He puts more effort in now than in previous years. Legs have gone only if you mean in terms of his pace but he is far from lazy now. He dictates the game better than most even now. As for the nonsense about goals and assists look how deep he is now playing and where he is tending to receive the ball. Modric plays deep for Madrid and has only scored about one goal all season. Still an absolutely vital player for them though. Yaya will still take some replacing as he's been outstanding for months and the passing out from the back is far better when he is playing than when Dinho or anyone else in our squad plays there.
 
Just hope he stays longer and not resign if it aint going right because our owners will back him to the hilt even through difficult times I'm sure.
 
Marvin said:
I agree with this, but every time I say that I remember what I thought in pre-season and what we thought about Pellegrini....

We were going to challenge for the title and pellegrini was not getting the max out of a good group of players
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Considering our full backs and the fact Kolarov has been our most consistent CB then I'd dare say he's ringed about as much from these players as possible.
 
Craig said:
Haha brilliant if you think Yaya's passing both long and short is anything other than world class you really are clueless. He puts more effort in now than in previous years. Legs have gone only if you mean in terms of his pace but he is far from lazy now. He dictates the game better than most even now. As for the nonsense about goals and assists look how deep he is now playing and where he is tending to receive the ball. Modric plays deep for Madrid and has only scored about one goal all season. Still an absolutely vital player for them though. Yaya will still take some replacing as he's been outstanding for months and the passing out from the back is far better when he is playing than when Dinho or anyone else in our squad plays there.
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Marvin is a Yaya outer and has been for some time.

Saying that he also wanted rid of Kompany last year from memory but seems to have changed his tune on this one.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Marvin is a Yaya outer and has been for some time.

Saying that he also wanted rid of Kompany last year from memory but seems to have changed his tune on this one.
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To be fair to Marvin here you can only comment on the here and now and last year, the vast majority had written Yaya off and this year at one point, the same with Vinny.
 
blueinsa said:
To be fair to Marvin here you can only comment on the here and now and last year, the vast majority had written Yaya off and this year at one point, the same with Vinny.
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But Yaya in the here and now had been pretty much in our top 3 players since he came back but is getting no acknowledgement for that from him.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
But Yaya in the here and now had been pretty much in our top 3 players since he came back but is getting no acknowledgement for that from him.
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Thats his problem and in the grand scheme of things, irrelevant mate.

I'd have sold Yaya last year as well and most definitely before November of this year but credit where its due, Pep took a strong stand and Yaya decided to man up and he has played an integral part of our season and for me, he deserves another year.
 
So if you don't win the league with Barcelona at a time with the worlds best player and surrounded with other world class players in a league with only one true opposition you should be sacked
If you don't win the league with BM at a time with world class players who have just won CL in a league that takes in turn to provide one club (which seems to change from year to year) to challenge them you should be sacked
If you don't win the league with City who has invested in players in certain areas and neglected other areas attempting to implement a brand of football to a league not particularly suited to that style in a league that can provide 4-5 genuine teams capable of winning that league I think deserves top continue in his job

Its not comparing apples with apples
 
Chippy_boy said:
I cannot get away from the feeling that this year - for whatever reason - has been a huge disappointment. I really did think we'd win the league and I was half expecting us to romp it. Fighting for a poor 3rd with nothing in the trophy cabinet is a level of underachievement I could not have imagined. Being so far behind Spurs in particular, is pretty shocking.
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It was easy to think that after the first few games. But surely any rational look at the quality of our defence should have resulted in alarm bells ringing?

At the start of the season it seemed we were all wrapped up in some of the innovations Pep introduced, such as playing Kolarov at centre back. Whereas really we should have been thinking "Why are we relying on Kolarov at centre back"? It took a while for teams to work us out, but they were always going to work us out because we were fundamentally flawed.
 
cibaman said:
It was easy to think that after the first few games. But surely any rational look at the quality of our defence should have resulted in alarm bells ringing?

At the start of the season it seemed we were all wrapped up in some of the innovations Pep introduced, such as playing Kolarov at centre back. Whereas really we should have been thinking "Why are we relying on Kolarov at centre back"? It took a while for teams to work us out, but they were always going to work us out because we were fundamentally flawed.
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I got pelters for telling people this, after the Celtic game.
 
M18CTID said:
True, but the club has invested a lot of time and money in getting Pep on board - it would be stupid to rip the whole plan up now because we've not mounted a title challenge in his first season. What he's attempting to build at City is something that will leave a long-term legacy. Trophies are hugely important in all that of course, but it's not essential that we had to win one this season.

Anyway, it's a total non-story IMO. Different clubs require different things from their managers and it could be argued that we're less of a sacking club these days than we were before the takeover. Fucking hell, Hughes got nearly 18 months and he wasn't even appointed by the sheikh.
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This, this, this, and this. Do I need to say it again?
That said, failure to win a fairly major trophy next season would be failure in a major way, I think. If the summer window goes as we all want it to.
 
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I didn't like the fact that he said "at a big club, I would have been gone"
I hope it's just a slip of the tongue, but it seemed to me he was inferring that we aren't a big club? !
 
rnblade said:
I didn't like the fact that he said "at a big club, I would have been gone"
I hope it's just a slip of the tongue, but it seemed to me he was inferring that we aren't a big club? !
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Take what he said in full and dont just cherry pick because when you do that you also glean that it means we are also a big club happy to give him the time he needs.

Its a compliment to us and our owner and a bit of a dig at his past clubs.
 
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