General Election June 8th

Who will you vote for at the General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 189 28.8%

  • Labour

    Votes: 366 55.8%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 37 5.6%

  • SNP

    Votes: 8 1.2%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 23 3.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 33 5.0%
  • Total voters
    656
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Len Rum said:
LOL.
Tories have now put deficit elimination back to 2025 (or not as the case will probably be).
Fcuk knows what the national debt will be by then , probably two trillion.
This is supposed to be their area of competence over Labour.
Ever thought you've been had Tory boys?
Fcuking con artists, yet you still fall for it.
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No matter who you quote, no matter what manifestos you read, no matter what promises you believe dis-believe I have only one thing to say to you.

Diane Abbott.

That along with Corbyn being a friend and supporter of terrorist organisations along with the Mickey Mouse economic policies are the reasons why Labour are going to implode and be the victims of the biggest landslide in British Political history.

And trust me this is coming from someone who despised Thatcher and who has always and still does hate the Tories.

Bitish politics is in the gutter.

Finally despite my loathing for the Tories I will vote for them though it is pointless down here Labour will win, though with a much reduced majority. It's going to be tough for Labour.
 
stonerblue said:
I've run my own business for over ten years and made a wage every week. I now employ a 19 year old and give him a tenner an hour. It means i get less income but i still earn enough. I'm happy with that.
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No problem with that but it's pretty rare if you compare wages competively with similar jobs, take the wage of every barman in every pub in the land for a start. I think there should be a sliding minimum wage for bigger companies though definitely. A company making billions should always be striving to pay people more than quite simply how much the government tells it to.
 
hilts said:
She gets a hundred grand mate the government get the rest. The policy is a shocker.
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Disagree. We are all living longer and we are all in part responsible for our own future, even into old age.

I think those who have property valued over £100 grand should put the amount over that into their own healthcare. They could choose not to if their children stepped up to the plate. At the end of the day the children will gat a share of £100k what's the problem.

Times moved on, the economy's moved on we need to move on.

Yes I do have a house, yes I do have kids, yes my house is worth well over £100k.
 
I'm sure some clever person will already be devising a range of new trusts to help people navigate/circumvent any future legislation.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
Disagree. We are all living longer and we are all in part responsible for our own future, even into old age.

I think those who have property valued over £100 grand should put the amount over that into their own healthcare. They could choose not to if their children stepped up to the plate. At the end of the day the children will gat a share of £100k what's the problem.

Times moved on, the economy's moved on we need to move on.

Yes I do have a house, yes I do have kids, yes my house is worth well over £100k.
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Correct so you have the money to look after yourself but the state have to fund it . Doesn't work. Why should you be able to leave money to your kids whilst the state have to pay for your care?

That's like a labour policy it's fair I can't understand why people are upset by it.

People who live longer need more care that is going to cost loads and loads in decades to come.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
No matter who you quote, no matter what manifestos you read, no matter what promises you believe dis-believe I have only one thing to say to you.

Diane Abbott.

That along with Corbyn being a friend and supporter of terrorist organisations along with the Mickey Mouse economic policies are the reasons why Labour are going to implode and be the victims of the biggest landslide in British Political history.

And trust me this is coming from someone who despised Thatcher and who has always and still does hate the Tories.

Bitish politics is in the gutter.

Finally despite my loathing for the Tories I will vote for them though it is pointless down here Labour will win, though with a much reduced majority. It's going to be tough for Labour.
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I totally agree but may is doing her best to lose a 20 point lead with that manifesto. Alienating everyone.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
Disagree. We are all living longer and we are all in part responsible for our own future, even into old age.

I think those who have property valued over £100 grand should put the amount over that into their own healthcare. They could choose not to if their children stepped up to the plate. At the end of the day the children will gat a share of £100k what's the problem.

Times moved on, the economy's moved on we need to move on.

Yes I do have a house, yes I do have kids, yes my house is worth well over £100k.
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The question is should we all share in the burden or do we leave it to luck. If we asked people to pay for their own health care when younger the shit would hit the fan. If you get dementia but I don't tough luck on you? This and pensions is a ticking time bomb without an obvious answer. Old people sell your houses sharpish.
 
hilts said:
The question is should we all share in the burden or do we leave it to luck. If we asked people to pay for their own health care when younger the shit would hit the fan. If you get dementia but I don't tough luck on you? This and pensions is a ticking time bomb without an obvious answer. Old people sell your houses sharpish.
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To answer your first point, if you have no assets over £100k we all share in paying.

If you do have assets above £100k you use that equity until you're down to 100k, then again we all share in paying.

Pretty good policy for the Tories, the ones who will suffer most will be the wealthy with assets.

I think we're bloody lucky to have the opportunity to live longer, I just don't understand why people who have assets think they have no responsibility (at no real hard financial extra costs - only equity) to look after themselves and the right to demand others pay.
 
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SWP's back said:
Better than having to sell their property no?
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To be fair mrs May was very clear strong and stable " you will not have to sell your house to pay social care costs .......when you're alive" Such a comforting thought for the elderly and infirm
 
BigJoe#1 said:
To answer your first point, if you have no assets over £100k we all share in paying.

If you do gave assets above £100k you yes that equity until you're down to 100k, then again we all share in paying.

Pretty good policy for the Tories, the ones who will suffer most will be the wealthy with assets.
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I have done a u turn on it in five minutes. What is classed as an asset?
 
80s Shorts said:
So the twats are taking peoples houses again to pay for their social care after they have paid into the system all their lives. The £100,000 threshold is ridiculously low and penalises the poorer in society.
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just encourages the wrong behaviour - don't save - sell your house when the kids leave home spread it amongst the family when you're in your early 50's rent a house and when you start to need care the state will pay because you have less than £100k in assets - and you've had a fucking great time squandering the wealth. You may as well enjoy it rather than let some old folks home company get rich
 
If you didn't include assets then you'd actively disincentive downsizing, stagnating the housing market.

It's a very Labour like policy from May, so I'm surprised that the people who are very vocal against it on here are the Labour voters.

I quite like it but don't think it's perfect. It's not fair to charge people for having some diseases and letting the NHS treat others IMO. Best way to get round the policy is to start smoking 40 a day when your memory starts going (perhaps ill advised tongue in cheek).
 
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