General Election June 8th

Who will you vote for at the General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 189 28.8%

  • Labour

    Votes: 366 55.8%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 37 5.6%

  • SNP

    Votes: 8 1.2%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 23 3.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 33 5.0%
  • Total voters
    656
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Murdoch won't get control of Sky if Labour wins so his editorials reflect that to defame Corbyn at every opportunity. The threat of implementing levenson threatens Dacres racist bile print too.
 
smudgedj said:
Some seriously rapid blinking when he talks about the IRA.
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Gotta love those terrorist fun loving tories. News reaches us about the tory, who was happy to announce -

"I agree with the shooting of British soldiers and believe that the more who are killed the better."

To be fair to her she did resign when it first aired but don't worry folks, the tories re-admitted her, knowing her history.
Unsurprisingly, there is no mention of the fact she was an active IRA member on the Croydon Conservatives webpage.

The hypocrisy is astounding. https://tompride.wordpress.com/2017/05/21/former-active-ira-member-serving-as-tory-party-councillor/

Thank God i will be voting for a fella who is happy to denounce all violence, you never know what hides under the murky tory spin machine.
 
The perfect fumble said:
Corbyn will never condemn the IRA in the way you want, he's a man in his late 60's who has always seen the IRA as part of a struggle for Irish self determination.

Perversely your support for Brexit has greatly improved the possibility of a united Ireland.

PS: Boris filching Peston's notes is important because it exposes him for the child that he is.
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I wouldn't say the Brexit vote has changed the possibility of a united Ireland very much, but 5 more years of a may led tory government will very possibly see then end of the Union, more cuts and the calls for indyref2 in Scotland will multiply and become undeniable, for Northern Ireland if there was a border poll now, I think about 65% would vote to remain in the UK, as quite a few nationalists with business interests would feel better off remaining, the destruction of the NHS and further eroding of public services would equalise NI with the south, and make a border poll too difficult to call.
Perversely, a JC led coalition with the Scottish Nationalists could be detrimental to the independants of both Scotland and Northern Ireland as a just and fairer Britain would prevent many from taking the independence risk.
 
urban genie said:
Jezza role in Irish relations 10-20years ago has nowt to do with this election, and for those saying he possibly was friends of the wrong and bad side of that issue, may I remind them Thatcher supported Pinochet, PW Botha and Pol Pot.

all in the past an a different political era where situations were different, on the Irish issue, if McGuiness and Paisley could work together and become unlikely friends then unless you were involved you cannot say for sure what happened and what corbyn believes.(before I get rebuked I have had family shot by the IRA so have no love or time for them).
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Theresa May today failed to condemn Pinochet for torturing and murdering opponents, and Thatcher's support for him and other fascist regimes.

Easy, isn't it?
 
People voting for Corbyn need to give their heads a shake. Without a doubt he would ruin the uk economy, only last week it was revealed labour had a 70billion black hole in their manifesto, ffs they couldnt even get that right. May is by far the lesser of two evils. Although I dont like her or many of her parties policies. It will be none of the above for me. All barstards only out for themselves im affraid.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
People voting for Corbyn need to give their heads a shake. Without a doubt he would ruin the uk economy, only last week it was revealed labour had a 70billion black hole in their manifesto, ffs they couldnt even get that right. May is by far the lesser of two evils. Although I dont like her or many of her parties policies. It will be none of the above for me. All barstards only out for themselves im affraid.
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Plenty of highly regarded economists have gone through the Labour manifesto and said that it is fully costed.
Closing the loopholes onot taxation and setting standards for companies wanting to tender for government contracts is something that should have been done years ago.
If we are to believe that may will be the better negotiator with the heads of 27 other EU states, why is she frightened to meet the public or discuss policies (or their record in government) with the leaders of 4 or 5 other parties?
Doesn't seem "strong and stable" to me, more weak and ineffective.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
People voting for Corbyn need to give their heads a shake. Without a doubt he would ruin the uk economy, only last week it was revealed labour had a 70billion black hole in their manifesto, ffs they couldnt even get that right. May is by far the lesser of two evils. Although I dont like her or many of her parties policies. It will be none of the above for me. All barstards only out for themselves im affraid.
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No black hole at all mate.
If you're referring to the 58 bn black hole alleged by the Tories to purchase the assets of the industries to be renationalised it's not a black hole.
The money will be borrowed by issuing bonds, the profits from the industries will be used to pay off the debt and interest ( very low at today's rates) instead of being paid out in dividends.
Pleased to be of assistance.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
People voting for Corbyn need to give their heads a shake. Without a doubt he would ruin the uk economy, only last week it was revealed labour had a 70billion black hole in their manifesto, ffs they couldnt even get that right. May is by far the lesser of two evils. Although I dont like her or many of her parties policies. It will be none of the above for me. All barstards only out for themselves im affraid.
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So you think the UK economy is in good shape ?
 
law74 said:
Plenty of highly regarded economists have gone through the Labour manifesto and said that it is fully costed.
Closing the loopholes onot taxation and setting standards for companies wanting to tender for government contracts is something that should have been done years ago.
If we are to believe that may will be the better negotiator with the heads of 27 other EU states, why is she frightened to meet the public or discuss policies (or their record in government) with the leaders of 4 or 5 other parties?
Doesn't seem "strong and stable" to me, more weak and ineffective.
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No cost provision at all for any of the privatisation policies. John McDonald admitted on radio four.
 
law74 said:
If we are to believe that may will be the better negotiator with the heads of 27 other EU states, why is she frightened to meet the public or discuss policies (or their record in government) with the leaders of 4 or 5 other parties?
Doesn't seem "strong and stable" to me, more weak and ineffective.
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She has to be better than those who are wavering or actually disagree with Brexit. Corbyn and the LibDem guy offer no credible alternative in terms of either skill-set or commitment.

That said, I was always a little worried about the potential quality of our negotiating team. I am even more concerned having seen her performance in recent weeks. She won't be able to lie low, or appear only on Jackanory, on this issue.
 
Len Rum said:
No black hole at all mate.
If you're referring to the 58 bn black hole alleged by the Tories to purchase the assets of the industries to be renationalised it's not a black hole.
The money will be borrowed by issuing bonds, the profits from the industries will be used to pay off the debt and interest ( very low at today's rates) instead of being paid out in dividends.
Pleased to be of assistance.
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I didn't think they were buying them back I thought the idea was not to renew the franchises?
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
No cost provision at all for any of the privatisation policies. John McDonald admitted on radio four.
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One thing I suspect some people overlook is that the government becomes responsible for capital investment once a company is nationalised. Then along come competing demands, some of which are very precious to voters. Guess what? Investment can take a flying fcuk and the industry gets progressively run down.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
People voting for Corbyn need to give their heads a shake. Without a doubt he would ruin the uk economy, only last week it was revealed labour had a 70billion black hole in their manifesto, ffs they couldnt even get that right. May is by far the lesser of two evils. Although I dont like her or many of her parties policies. It will be none of the above for me. All barstards only out for themselves im affraid.
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The Tories have also stated they won't be reducing national debt til 2025. They will spend to try to save later. With no assurances that the latter will happen. But hey, why not just tell one side so it fits the agenda.
 
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