Explosion at MEN Arena/Victoria Station

Manchester City and Manchester United have pledged £1m to the We Love Manchester Emergency Fund, the clubs have announced.
 
Gelsons Dad said:
You could keep going backwards ad infinitum. Should we blame the ottomans? Birth of Islam or Christianity? The Greeks?
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You could but it wouldn't be relevant. The problems started when the Middle East was carved up (and you could say the same about post-war Africa) and where we created "countries" that had little relation to their social or political history.
 
Hulme arrest not related to the attack
woman initially arrested released
8 remain in custody
 
nj1894 said:
At least Tommy Robinson is getting his facts right, hes tweeted a list of Asian staff who were on duty on Monday, with a licence number that is nothing to do with SIA or showsec, wanker
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Katie Hopkins investigated for Crime think...just wow. Can you tell me why so many people inc yourself have so much angst towards Tommy Robinson?
 
Blue Llama said:
Exactly my point in an earlier post. Very rarely has our intervention been 100% appreciated so why do we continue to bother. We learn nothing from history, Afghanistan being a good case. The French and Russians learnt to their cost. we even have previous but did this history inform our decision to go in again? No it didn't and not even the guy we helped stabilise for several years has much to say in our favour. We helped protect Muslims in at least 2 of the Yugoslavian states, doesn't seem to have banked us much credit with the nutters.
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Unfortunately the Muslim faith is not unique when it comes to in fighting. Our experience in Northern Ireland reminds me of the oft quoted remark ´´Don´t them Christians love each other´´.
 
phil clarke said:
Katie Hopkins investigated for Crime think...just wow. Can you tell me why so many people inc yourself have so much angst towards Tommy Robinson?
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Because he's carrying on the job the wanker who blew himself up started. He's desperate to sow division and discord between communities, which is exactly what ISIS want. He's also using this to promote his own agenda, as is that witch Hopkins. They're not Mancunians, they really don't give two hoots about the victims and we don't want them sticking their disgusting, racist noses into our business.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Because he's carrying on the job the wanker who blew himself up started. He's desperate to sow division and discord between communities, which is exactly what ISIS want. He's also using this to promote his own agenda, as is that witch Hopkins. They're not Mancunians, they really don't give two hoots about the victims and we don't want them sticking their disgusting, racist noses into our business.
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Well said.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Because he's carrying on the job the wanker who blew himself up started. He's desperate to sow division and discord between communities, which is exactly what ISIS want. He's also using this to promote his own agenda, as is that witch Hopkins. They're not Mancunians, they really don't give two hoots about the victims and we don't want them sticking their disgusting, racist noses into our business.
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He has said he will be in Manchester on the 11th of June to "protest". We should all give him a warm Mancunian welcome the twat
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Because he's carrying on the job the wanker who blew himself up started. He's desperate to sow division and discord between communities, which is exactly what ISIS want. He's also using this to promote his own agenda, as is that witch Hopkins. They're not Mancunians, they really don't give two hoots about the victims and we don't want them sticking their disgusting, racist noses into our business.
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To be honest i thought he was Scottish for some reason lol. I have looked at him on youtube and just last week i seen him at the law courts when the Asian rapists where on trial,in Luton,Rotherham and Rochdale. He seemed to make an awful lot of sense if im honest,there were only a handful of people there shouting the odds and in my opinion there should have been 1000s inc Musims denouncing those people up on trial. The families of the said scumbags where actually backing them up. I just dont know anymore. If that is racism then god help us mate.
 
phil clarke said:
To be honest i thought he was Scottish for some reason lol. I have looked at him on youtube and just last week i seen him at the law courts when the Asian rapists where on trial,in Luton,Rotherham and Rochdale. He seemed to make an awful lot of sense if im honest,there were only a handful of people there shouting the odds and in my opinion there should have been 1000s inc Musims denouncing those people up on trial. The families of the said scumbags where actually backing them up. I just dont know anymore. If that is racism then god help us mate.
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Robinson is a product of his environment and a direct recipient of forced multiculturalism. Deflecting his views by calling him a racist and by ignoring his message is insane.
 
Just heard a story that I believe is true but can't confirm 100%. When the paramedic crews arrived at the Arena, a senior officer from NWAS told all the crews that the scene was 'hot', their safety couldn't be guaranteed and that they could wait until told it was safe. Not one waited and they all went in unhesitatingly. The tears welled up in my eyes when I heard that. My pride in the courage of my daughter's paramedic colleagues and friends just couldn't be higher.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Just heard a story that I believe is true but can't confirm 100%. When the paramedic crews arrived at the Arena, a senior officer from NWAS told all the crews that the scene was 'hot', their safety couldn't be guaranteed and that they could wait until told it was safe. Not one waited and they all went in unhesitatingly. The tears welled up in my eyes when I heard that. My pride in the courage of my daughter's paramedic colleagues and friends just couldn't be higher.
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Special people doing a magnificent and selfless job.

Just watched footage from the Queens visit to some of the injured.

Heart wrenching as well as heart warming.

One lady interviewed explained how she was with another Mother waiting for their kids. When asked how the other lady was she explained she had died in the blast.

Tears in my eyes.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Just heard a story that I believe is true but can't confirm 100%. When the paramedic crews arrived at the Arena, a senior officer from NWAS told all the crews that the scene was 'hot', their safety couldn't be guaranteed and that they could wait until told it was safe. Not one waited and they all went in unhesitatingly. The tears welled up in my eyes when I heard that. My pride in the courage of my daughter's paramedic colleagues and friends just couldn't be higher.
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Compare that to the bosses of Greater Manchester Fire keeping their firefighters in the station for a good 90 minutes. They all were desperate to go and help but they werent allowed to leave, theres a lot of pissed off firefighters
 
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