General Election June 8th

[Metal Biker]

Not Len though. Make sure you let him know you're not including him in this.

That man scares me... too 'culty' for my tastes

 

[Danamy]

Think the Mods need to step in again.

Why?.......by all means report any posts you feel are against the CoC and we'll look at them, cheers

 

[SWP's back]

Yep.
Right wingers are having a fuckin meltdown.
You always know they are losing when they start to abuse folk.

Yeah it's the right wingers distorting truth and saying thinks like "you must be delighted that disabled people commit suicide".

Course mate. Good one.

 

[SWP's back]

That man scares me... too 'culty' for my tastes

Typo?

 

[Peggy's a blue]

You mean like the British Army and Unionists?

No the terrorists

 

[CitizenTID]

Not at all I ain't voting for either May or balaclava man I just find it pretty sad that people will turn a blind eye to his scum bag past. If posters are going to blab on about honesty they should show a bit themselves. Labour cater to various groups of people and a lot of posters in here will fall into that category. Now the honest thing to do especially as it won't affect anything is to just admit they are voting out of self interest or for their hatred of the Tory party.

Instead they lie which is bad enough but their constant moaning about doing the right thing by people is a joy to behold. Some of the justifications of corbyn would shame a politician. That's how bad some of you are, you are worse than politicians, hard to sink any lower than that.

Aren't you Irish? Maybe you know something I don't but all I've seen is something blown totally out of proportion, manipulated and twisted to fit particular papers' agendas. I'll dig deeper into it but unless I find any direct support of harm to British lives from him it doesn't change anything as I'm only presented with 2 real options to play my cards for the long-term future of the country.

Voting out of self-interest? You don't vote Labour if you're voting out of self-interest, the selfish vote has always been a Tory vote as theirs is about accumulation of wealth for the individual, not infrastructure to benefit all - rich or poor.

I'm voting Labour because I've weighed everything up and on balance, Labour are the best option to secure the infrastructure the country needs for people to not live in misery and poverty despite us being a top 6 richest country. I don't have a long-standing hatred for the Tory party but after this recent run of government from them they have made me utterly despise them because they are selling their people and country out time and time again. The thing about "living within our means" is complete bullshit when they spunk billions in whatever direction they want to whether it be Trident where many have vested interests or doing up palaces (e.g. Westminster).

Voting on a personality is immature but I can say part of my reason of voting is based on personality because the personalities that make up the Tories are careerists that don't act on behalf of the country.

 

[Metal Biker]

Typo?

I plead the fifth

 

[hilts]

Aren't you Irish? Maybe you know something I don't but all I've seen is something blown totally out of proportion, manipulated and twisted to fit particular papers' agendas. I'll dig deeper into it but unless I find any direct support of harm to British lives from him it doesn't change anything as I'm only presented with 2 real options to play my cards for the long-term future of the country.

Voting out of self-interest? You don't vote Labour if you're voting out of self-interest, the selfish vote has always been a Tory vote as theirs is about accumulation of wealth for the individual, not infrastructure to benefit all - rich or poor.

I'm voting Labour because I've weighed everything up and on balance, Labour are the best option to secure the infrastructure the country needs. I don't have a long-standing hatred for the Tory party but after this recent run of government from them they have made me utterly despise them because they are selling their people and country out time and time again. The thing about "living within our means" is complete bullshit when they spunk billions in whatever direction they want to whether it be Trident where many have vested interests or doing up palaces (e.g. Westminster).

Voting on a personality is immature but I can say part of my reason of voting is based on personality because the personalities that make up the Tories are careerists that don't act on behalf of the country.

Just to clarify are you saying people don't vote for labour out of self interest?


https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/labour-party-knew-corbyn-made-leader-now-country-knows/

Now I know it's the spectator but these stories appear everywhere and I have yet heard anyone disprove it, McDonnell himself wouldn't even answer the question.

It shames posters who prefer to ignore it because the 3 scum bags of labour are on their side

 

[frothy]

You must take great pleasure at the disabled having their benefits cut and the whole process being so stressful that they end up killing themselves.

Don't talk like a t**t

 

[SWP's back]

Voting out of self-interest? You don't vote Labour if you're voting out of self-interest

Of course you do so long as you're not going to get hit by 50% tax and you're not part of the "fabled few". Everything in the Labour manifesto is paid for by someone else. Someone you're not. To say you're voting for them without self interest is rather inaccurate.

 

[CitizenTID]

Just to clarify are you saying people don't vote for labour out of self interest?

Are you suggesting they might because they want to sit on their arse all day and have the govt. pay them to in benefits?

That was the result of past Govt.

1. This is a totally different Labour
2. That gripe is worth it if it means the majority aren't suffering from Tory policies
3. Lessons have already been learned and 1 policy is easier to put pressure on than a whole manifesto

I'm not saying this Labour is perfect, Dianne Abbott in any position of responsibility scares the shit out of me but with the options on the table, the country is crying out for Labour

 

[Magicpole]

No, by we I mean people that are sick of nationalistic Scottish trolls.

Oh the irony of calling me 'nationalistic' with your right wing pish. You're worse than me. At least our firm doesn't hate people who are different. Regardless of what your Daily Mail tells you.

 

[SWP's back]

I don't have a long-standing hatred for the Tory party but after this recent run of government from them they have made me utterly despise the

GDP up

GDP growth above EU average

GDP per capita up

Inflation down

Wages up

Employed numbers up

Unemployment down

Worker productivity up

https://ig.ft.com/sites/numbers/economies/uk/

The bastards.

 

[hilts]

Are you suggesting they might because they want to sit on their arse all day and have the govt. pay them to in benefits?

That was the result of past Govt.

1. This is a totally different Labour
2. That gripe is worth it if it means the majority aren't suffering from Tory policies
3. Lessons have already been learned and 1 policy is easier to put pressure on than a whole manifesto

I'm not saying this Labour is perfect, Dianne Abbott in any position of responsibility scares the shit out of me but with the options on the table, the country is crying out for Labour

You see this is my point about people just spouting nonsense. Please show me the post where I indicated this. Do I really need to post scenarios where a voter may vote labour out of self interest?

 

[SWP's back]

Oh the irony of calling me 'nationalistic' with your right wing pish. You're worse than me. At least our firm doesn't hate people who are different. Regardless of what your Daily Mail tells you.

Who do I hate that's different?

Have you ever travelled? Worked in a different country? Different culture? Do you have friends that are different? Employ people that are different? You're a little Scotlander and you've not got a clue what you're talking about there laddo. You're on a hiding to nothing.

And it's "piss", fuck knows what "pish" is.

So come on, answer, who do I hate that's different? Have you got the stones to say what you're trying to get at?

 

[Magicpole]

Who do I hate that's different?

Have you ever travelled? Worked in a different country? Different culture? Do you have friends that are different? Employ people that are different? You're a little Scotlander and you've not got a clue what you're talking about there laddo. You're on a hiding to nothing.

And it's "piss", fuck knows what "pish" is.

So come on, answer, who do I hate that's different? Have you got the stones to say what you're trying to get at?

Me

 

[Peggy's a blue]

You mean like the British Army and Unionists?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/events/droppin_well

I live in Derry/Londonderry Northern Ireland, you are calling the British Army and Unionists murderers. I find this very offensive. Look at this link to the Ballykelly bombing, terrible carnage perpetrated by the murderers you not only defend but advocate, shame on you and shame on any of your scumbag bigoted leftie pieces of grabastic ampibious dogshit, also that appeaser of murderers you want to lead our country!

 

[SWP's back]

Me

I don't hate you because you're different.

You're actually one of my favourite posters, weirdly enough. I just don't like your favour of politics but I'd buy you a few pints at the drop of a hat.

Your post regarding terrorism was the best post I've read on here in years as it was well thought out and reasoned and inoffensive despite the charged nature of the content.

 

[CitizenTID]

Of course you do so long as you're not going to get hit by 50% tax and you're not part of the "fabled few". Everything in the Labour manifesto is paid for by someone else. Someone you're not. To say you're voting for them without self interest is rather inaccurate.

Err, sorry you're looking at this totally backward.

I'll give you my personal example: I don't look to accumulate as much wealth as possible and buy shit I think will impress other people and give myself a false impression that I matter or buy a house that is more than my family needs because, "I wouldn't want my peers to look down on me and think I'm poor now would I?"

My whole mindset is about achievement. What can be achieved for humanity and most effectively solve the problems we face. I realise that a bin man is a critical job - they definitely shouldn't be paid the wage of someone with a significantly higher skill set, but they shouldn't live in poverty and struggle through life either.

People are too focussed on materialistic needs because of ego. If you want a warranted reason to have an ego, achieve something that benefits other people. Like many in the Tory party, I do want to accumulate wealth yes - but I want to accumulate it to be in a position to most effectively impact the world positively in the manner I mention whilst only taking for myself what I need to keep that up without money stress. Money makes the world go round but I'm not a bellend who thinks I'm a big fish with power over other people because I have nicer stuff than others my social circle, which may be compared with a trampoline to that of an ant - in the context of the world it's jack shit, you bought a nice Maserati somebody else's achievements made.

Everything in the Labour manifesto isn't paid for by somebody else - it's paid for by everyone and people who earn the highest figures because the country that brought them up and educated them, enabling them to do so are going to have to shoulder less responsibility than they did from the starting figure that the tories began to bring down for them. Same (and more importantly so) with the corporations who this Govt. have let pay absolutely f all in relation to the legal responsibility they were meant to - he aint making it worse for them than it was in 2010 so don't worry, the country won't be worse off than then because of the matter. Corbyn by renationalising rail and post would also be investing the Govt.'s money so the Govt. can create other long-term revenue streams, rather than selling off every asset for a short-term Tory party jizz fest.

 

[SWP's back]

Same (and more importantly so) with the corporations who this Govt. have let pay absolutely f all in relation to the legal responsibility they were meant to

Ignoring the right on message in the rest of your post, if Corbyn gets in then there's not a chance he will be able to get a penny more out of the corps you're thinking about without a worldwide agreeement. There's a reason google et al pay their tax in Dublin.