General Election June 8th

Who will you vote for at the General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 189 28.8%
  • Labour

    Votes: 366 55.8%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 37 5.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 8 1.2%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 23 3.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 33 5.0%

  • Total voters
    656
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the vote went
The House having divided:

Ayes 305, Noes 239.

Not as simple as implilled really, as many MP's voted against
The Brexit Secretary David Davis voted against for one.
His opinion was that any such legislation needs to have final judicial approval - not simply executive approval. If the legislation had such oversight then people like David Davis could agree with it too.
Corbyn would still vote against mind.
 
Yeah - will really support the police that

This 're-engineered conviction' of his comes conveniently only after he becomes Labour leader and therefore a possible PM candidate - so basically exposes his shallow nature that he will seemingly say anything to hide his real beliefs - he does so much of that now and there are some not able (or willing) to see through the dissembling.

But setting that aside - will this mean if Corbyn's dissembling wins the day will it mean that police officers when facing terrorists will have to make some decision on the spot of whether, as an individual, they might be putting their liberty at risk when defending citizens against the threat.

Let's just hope that they do not hesitate and take time to think through the way Corbyn has supported the investigation/prosecution of soldiers that have had to kill in the line of duty.

Don't get your tweed Y-fronts in a twist, you'll still have your Tory government in come Friday.
 
And yet this legislation is exactly the sort of legislation that might prevent something like the Manchester atrocity and prevent us having enemies of our country in our midst, yet Labour, who now proclaim that they would keep the British people safe, opposed the measure and yet they have the brass neck to call the Tories for reducing policing levels ! Complete and utter hypocrisy.

If you really want to 'truly' know the party that is looking at every measure possible to keep the British people safe then this is it. In light of recent events, the Labour party should hang their heads in shame, I truly believed it would only be the extreme end of their party (Corbynista's et al) that would oppose this legislation but it turns out it was the whole damn lot of them.

Now we know where the British Labour parties loyalties lie, and that is protecting the rights of extremists over the rights of the British people to live in safety and security in their own country.

I was frightened of this rabble getting in before this purely on economic grounds, now I'm absolutely terrified.

I've underlined and bolded the important word there.
Deporting anyone they don't like the look of might do it too.
Or shooting them.
 
Am I wrong in the belief that we are leaving the EU regardless now that Article 50 has been triggered?
Yes you are - happy to discuss on the A50 thread but unless May is elected on Thursday we are certainly not leaving the EU - at least in any meaningful manner.

So those that voted to leave - no matter their normal political persuasion should hold their nose (if necessary) and vote Conservative this time.

I very rarely post opinions in the manner of facts (unlike a lot on here) but I would state that what I say is an entirely inevitable fact

I would be happy to demonstrate - on the correct thread - that what I say is clearly correct
 
Labour would win this election if it wasn't led by these dodgy fuckers
Make Labour Sane Again

I've been pretty depressed of late at the possibility - even if it is an outside one - that Corbyn could conceivably end up being PM. He would be without a shadow an atom of a doubt the worst PM is history of our great country and would do untold damage to that would take years to fix. Everyone would be materially worse off and we'd all be in more danger. A very depressing thought.

However, I was cheered this afternoon talking to some people from Gatley, lifelong Labour supporters all of them. They're tearing their hair out since they've voted at every general election since the 1970's but have said there is no way on planet earth they will vote for Corbyn. They hate the Tories, and they think the LibDems are a waste of time. They are really torn between not voting at all, and swallowing their pride and voting Tory.

Hopefully there's still plenty more who can see what a lying, slimy **** Corbyn really is.

I've gone from thinking he's a principled, if not deluded stupid old fool. To realising he's a lying, cheating, odious twat.
 
That's so absurd it's not worth of a reply. The Corp Tax would be 2% less than 2010, as has been covered by Tory supporters on here - there's many more considerations which is why everyone hasn't based themselves in Ireland already.
What do you think companies would do faced with an instant fall of profits of 7%? prices would rise (so inflation would go up meaning your salary buys less), redundancies would be made and company investment would dry up immediately. It is you are so very wrong. A rise could only take place very slowly.
 
At her press conference today May was invited by the Press four times to criticise Trump over his tweet which slagged off Sadiq Khan who of course as Mayor of London is a democratically elected representative of the British people.
She refused.
Disgraceful and weak.
Indeed,she is the new poodle,she should be defending her own at this time
 
At her press conference today May was invited by the Press four times to criticise Trump over his tweet which slagged off Sadiq Khan who of course as Mayor of London is a democratically elected representative of the British people.
She refused.
Disgraceful and weak.
I think the press and others editing the context of that "part and parcel" speech he made to suggest other meaning has damaged Khan's image greatly. Must admit I took it as it was presented and it negatively influenced my view of him but knowing what he actually said and in consideration of how he's handled things, he's actually been a very professional Mayor dealing with these matters and I haven't seen fault. Same thing happening by Trump editing his "no reason to be alarmed" statement. I dismissed the claims of racism against Abbott recently because the stick she gets is legitimate but with Khan, you can't help but feel these false criticisms are underlined by his ethnic background and faith - he is being treated very unfairly.
 
What do you think companies would do faced with an instant fall on profits of 7%? Inflation would go, redundancies would be made and investment would dry up immediately. It is you are wrong, so very wrong.
You're looking at it in a very basic manner that is only appropriate in explaining the matter to primary school children.
 
I've been pretty depressed of late at the possibility - even if it is an outside one - that Corbyn could conceivably end up being PM. He would be without a shadow an atom of a doubt the worst PM is history of our great country and would do untold damage to that would take years to fix. Everyone would be materially worse off and we'd all be in more danger. A very depressing thought.

However, I was cheered this afternoon talking to some people from Gatley, lifelong Labour supporters all of them. They're tearing their hair out since they've voted at every general election since the 1970's but have said there is no way on planet earth they will vote for Corbyn. They hate the Tories, and they think the LibDems are a waste of time. They are really torn between not voting at all, and swallowing their pride and voting Tory.

Hopefully there's still plenty more who can see what a lying, slimy **** Corbyn really is.

I've gone from thinking he's a principled, if not deluded stupid old fool. To realising he's a lying, cheating, odious twat.

Good for you. Your one vote might just clinch it for Teresa.
 
Not to mention he started yesterday evening having agreed to not be campaigning yesterday.

If he does get in I will piss myself when the lefties on here realise what utter mugs they've been taken for. It's almost worth it.

J Corbyn, yesterday:
“The Labour party will be suspending national campaigning until this evening, after consultations with other parties, as a mark of respect for those who have died and suffered injury."

As you were, with added correctness.
 
The LWNJ's will not allow any such thinking on here - but there are a lot of traditional Labour voters (even me) that could vote Labour if it was not for these 'loons' leading the party at the moment. I could not vote for them this time as I want to leave the EU and unless the Conservatives win on Thursday that will not happen.

But I could in the future if they were not led by people so out of touch with the values of the majority of UK citizens. What pisses me off about Corbyn these recent weeks - and his motley crew - is that they get bigged up for being true to their beliefs etc. - where in fact they have been dissembling/prevaricating and if needed lying these last weeks in an attempt to secure votes - are they therefore not just as flawed as the more traditional politicians that they criticise?

I would say it depends on what you would call a typical labour voter, any post late 80's would maybe lean towards the neo liberal new labour and see that as traditional labour, (amd I am not saying that is you btw I am on about other on social media that have said as much) some others would consider this manifesto and direction of the party as a return to traditional labour values.


I don't particulary think jezza is great, but the party values I was brought up on are back and that energises my belief labour can actually be a good force for the country.

I have only been eligable to vote since the 97 election, and this is the first time I feel hope when voting Labour again since
 
You're looking at it in a very basic manner that is only appropriate in explaining the matter to primary school children.
You're the one who is living in dreamland. It could be increased but only very slowly and if Labour don't get the cash pretty quickly there whole economic plan collapses.
 
Not to mention he started yesterday evening having agreed to not be campaigning yesterday.

If he does get in I will piss myself when the lefties on here realise what utter mugs they've been taken for. It's almost worth it.

If he does get in I reckon we put you on watch for a few days.
 
At her press conference today May was invited by the Press four times to criticise Trump over his tweet which slagged off Sadiq Khan who of course as Mayor of London is a democratically elected representative of the British people.
She refused.
Disgraceful and weak.
She said on each occasion that Khan was doing a good job indeed

That answer , IMO, would only fall short in satisfying someone if they were more interested in orchestrating some schism between the leaders of the UK and USA

She endorsed Khan on each occasion

I do not remember you being so picky when Corbyn was prevaricating on explicitly condemning the IRA and continually hiding in the way he answered things

I do not see May as strong and stable - but Corbyn is far less than the man of principle that some on here project him to be - more just yet another shallow politician that will say anything to avoid answering a question directly - bit like May (peas in a pod?)
 
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