General Election June 8th

[worsleyweb]

Both previous governments have been as bad as each other, I said as much on here yesterday, both labour and the Tory parties have colluded with one terrorist organisation or another. Did you miss the posts yesterday where I was discussing our links with the Libyan terrorist organisation who we aided and assisted to topple gaddafi? the group who the Manchester bomber and his family are members of. Believe me if you think Corbyn is an apologist, your little world would come crashing down were you to read something else other than the Mail and educate yourself on exactly what is/has happened and who we've supported/continue to support in the region, but you won't, you will treat the information available just like you do on here when someone says something you don't want to believe or can't debate or answer - you will just ignore it!
I'm not a Labour supporter neither, I have voted for them previously but not at the last election and I may or may not vote for them tomorrow, so I can remain objective towards whichever government is in power and criticise them when appropriate. You on the other hand blindly support the Tories regardless of their policies, even if those policies are directly supporting terrorist today. You look rather ridiculous, calling a pacifist a terrorist apologist while your leader sells arms to the Saudis, who created and propagated this whole Islamic terrorism bollocks.

You sound like the guardian. I am going to bed 100 percent. Please god the Tories get a good majority tomorrow. I am hopeful.

 

[worsleyweb]

So nothing happened there pre 2003? Ha

Tell me when we beheaded innocent people and had suicide bombers attacking kids?

 

[Dreadzone]

I upset him because i said i understood why ISIS do what they do. I also asked why people got so pissed over less deaths of british humans as to humans overseas.
Can you understand why ISIS do what they do?
Hardly means im a sympathiser or supporter.
I also suppose if you had some direct accounts of whats going on in Syria peoples views may be different also.

But its not within our governments interest to feed you all the truth by their news channels and news papers.

Many of you would be as disgusted as me at our involvement since 2002

Im totally with you on this! And, like you, am being slated from all and sundry. 'We', GREAT fucking Britain need to hold our hands up and apologise to all that have been sadly And savagely affected by these atrocities!

 

[Machiavelli]

Tell me when we beheaded innocent people and had suicide bombers attacking kids?

You've just posted "Blair was the first to meddle over there" trying to point score against someone whom you believe to be a Labour voter.
You obviously have no understanding of the history of western foreign policy in the region if you think Tony was the first to meddle over there. Best to leave it, you haven't got a scooby.

 

[worsleyweb]

You've just posted "Blair was the first to meddle over there" trying to point score against someone whom you believe to be a Labour voter.
You obviously have no understanding of the history of western foreign policy in the region if you think Tony was the first to meddle over there. Best to leave it, you haven't got a scooby.

I couldn't care less who you vote for. I wa pointing out to someone that Blair was labour and he meddled in the Middle East - if he was the first or not I really couldn't care less.

 

[worsleyweb]

Im totally with you on this! And, like you, am being slated from all and sundry. 'We', GREAT fucking Britain need to hold our hands up and apologise to all that have been sadly And savagely affected by these atrocities!

And what about Iraq, Canada, Australia, USA, Belgium, Germany, Pakistan, Egypt, Mali, Syria etc etc - all subject to Muslim terrorist attacks in 2017 amongst many others. Are all these countries to blame for the savage atrocities and deserve their chickens coming home to roost with innocent people attacked in the name of a bullshit ideology? I have never heard such shit in all my life. You should all be ashamed. Stop finding excuses for this evil.

 

[Dreadzone]

Didn't Blair go into iraq first? Remind me what party he was from. Sure it was not my beloved Tory party!! And I haven't a clue!!

In 1987, British Secret Intelligence Service, MI6 reported that Britains premier tool makers, Matrix Churchill supplied equipment to Iraqi arms factories. A little before Blair came to office.

 

[worsleyweb]

In 1987, British Secret Intelligence Service, MI6 reported that Britains premier tool makers, Matrix Churchill supplied equipment to Iraqi arms factories. A little before Blair came to office.

Could not give a toss!!

 

[Dreadzone]

You answered NONE of my points.

I'll set it again...

This country's governments have shook the hands of many terrorist nations, done back door arms deals with the very ones they condemn openly and occupied land and killed thousands and thousands of innocent for the addiction to oil.

Do you believe this country is innocent of terrorism...?

" Innocent of terrorism..." wtf. Are you having a laugh! We friggin funded it!

 

[mcfc1632]

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Democracy is not always about what suits you. We have decided and the Scottish parliament has already cited to have one. We win again tomorrow you cannot say no.

That made me laugh - thanks

Actually we can and the answer is no - perhaps in 2023 - won't happen before so you need, I would suggest, to get over it

 

[Dreadzone]

I don't believe we have had wars purely for the pursuit of oil. And we have not committed terrorist acts on innocent people.

I'm so sorry but as an aged ex brit military, you and many others have been fed bullshit. Proud to be Brit. No I'm not!

 

[maliko]

Yes it would. How many countries have Muslim terrorist attacks happened in where there have not been military interventions?

We're not talking about terrorist attacks in Muslim countries, we're talking about the reasons why we're facing attacks in this country.

I'll entertain you momentarily though... Firstly and I'm guessing you know this - military action isn't the only cause of terrorism. Secondly, in order for me to even try answering the question, you'll need to be more specific about which country as the situations, groups and cause of terrorism will vary.

 

[worsleyweb]

We're not talking about terrorist attacks in Muslim countries, we're talking about the reasons why we're facing attacks in this country.

I'll entertain you momentarily though... Firstly and I'm guessing you know this - military action isn't the only cause of terrorism. Secondly, in order for me to even try answering the question, you'll need to be more specific about which country as the situations, groups and cause of terrorism will vary.

Glad you will entertain me - since when were France, Canada, Australia and Germany Muslim countries?

 

[maliko]

Tell me when we beheaded innocent people and had suicide bombers attacking kids?

You're right we don't instead we just blow the suit out of them, much more humane

 

[worsleyweb]

You're right we don't instead we just blow the suit out of them, much more humane

So why are muslims attacking countries who have not made military interventions?

 

[Bluemanc100]

In 1987, British Secret Intelligence Service, MI6 reported that Britains premier tool makers, Matrix Churchill supplied equipment to Iraqi arms factories. A little before Blair came to office.

No mention of WMD though... Blair and Co made that shit up and got rid of the only guy who could refute it... allegedly

 

[maliko]

Glad you will entertain me - since when were France, Canada, Australia and Germany Muslim countries?

My bad, I misread what you wrote. All four of the countries you quoted have been involved militarily, so from a terrorist perspective that would make them legitimate targets... just sayin.

 

[maliko]

So why are muslims attacking countries who have not made military interventions?

Muslims or Terrorists? Which countries? You do realise that it's against Islam to take innocent lives, but that wouldn't really suit your agenda would it.

 

[worsleyweb]

Muslims or Terrorists? Which countries? You do realise that it's against Islam to take innocent lives, but that wouldn't really suit your agenda would it.

Are the terrorists not muslims?

 

[maliko]

Are the terrorists not muslims?

The argument could easily be made that they're only muslim by name. But seeing as we're going down this route, what have you to say about the daily avg of 54 islamaphobic attacks by Christian folk in this country?