General Election June 8th

Who will you vote for at the General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 189 28.8%
  • Labour

    Votes: 366 55.8%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 37 5.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 8 1.2%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 23 3.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 33 5.0%

  • Total voters
    656
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SNP 1.5m votes 59 MP's
UKIP 3.8m votes 1 MP
This.
I know people say it's sour grapes because you've lost but it's not.
I firmly believe that as a country our politics would be less antagonistic if the system was PR and parties had to work together to form coalitions.
People would also feel their vote counted for something.
At the moment it's a handful of voters in certain marginals that determine the outcome.
 
NATO should commit to the protection of human rights for every citizen on Earth and, after periods of diplomacy, should militarily intervene in countries where they are being abused
Noble words but they'd need a big fucking army
 
This.
I know people say it's sour grapes because you've lost but it's not.
I firmly believe that as a country our politics would be less antagonistic if the system was PR and parties had to work together to form coalitions.
People would also feel their vote counted for something.
At the moment it's a handful of voters in certain marginals that determine the outcome.
I think you're right .
 
A few marginal councils have been reported to Electoral Commission for refusing votes at polling stations near Universities.

This might get a bit ugly

Most likely because thick students are still registered to vote at home rather than their university address and then don't understand why they aren't able to vote. Nothing to see here.
 
Most likely because thick students are still registered to vote at home rather than their university address and then don't understand why they aren't able to vote. Nothing to see here.

No it's because they were sent old registers which is why the EC and Police are involved .

Turns out that university students arent that thick.
 
Don't think 60+ would be a clusterfuck mate.
I think Jezz would get away with below 70.
Between70 -100 it's looking dodgy, and 100+ ( which is where I think it will end up unfortunately) he'll probably go in September.
Labour need to stick with their current policies and elect a more voter friendly leader like Dan Jarvis or Clive Lewis, both ex military.
When the crisis that is Brexit hits and the voters are fed up of more austerity then Labour could then be in a realistic position to form a government.
Fair enough. I was just thinking that the existing majority is/was (I think) 15? And it's been widely acknowledged that the tory campaign has been pretty woeful. Taking that into account, would Labour not expect to have limited the rise in the majority to "reasonable" (whatever that is!) levels. Would a rise of 50-60 seats really be acceptable to the Labour hierarchy?
 
French tv apparently talking of a high turnout and youth turnout

Exit poll on BBC in less than an hour..

they are the masters of predictions.. check this scarily accurate precition out:



Don't start celebrating for Labour yet Bluemoon.. all you Labour luvvies on here and Twitter polls might have to put the champagne on ice for the Silent Tory Majority..
 
Flipping the figures round is not right either but you can't deny that this system is crazy , 3.8m voters are not represented , is this democracy ?
Well out of a nearly 70m population there will be a lot of voters that don't get their way. I think the current system is still the fairest for across the country (besides unequal devolution that can f*** off). If feasible, the prime minister/a president would add more fairness whoever gets the most votes overall though - particularly where local representation doesn't apply (e.g. if a president in a particular system).
 
I'm just looking forward to Corbyn getting sacked in the morning and all his student unions going with him. They are so annoying !
 
the BBC will have to be VERY brave to predict a Labour victory, or even a hung parliament..

I actually suspect that the polls (by YouGov etc) showing closeness is fabricated to generate interest and to encourage people to vote when in reality the Conservatives are heading for a landslide.. but that's the cynic in me.
 
Labour's figures do add up but don't stand up to scrutiny. They amount to an academic projection of how much revenue would be raised assuming no avoidance measures were taken by any of the entities facing a higher tax burden. The reality is those facing higher taxes would be very very likely to avoid and mitigate their higher liabilities wherever possible. As you rightly say, however, Labour's spending commitments are costed, whereas the conservatives' aren't. So the choice we face today is between a party whose costings don't stand up to scrutiny, and a party whose costings are non-existent.

Heigh ho.
Trouble is mate based on your argument you can never raise tax on businesses or top end earners because they will avoid it.
Which means you have to raise it on the ordinary punters. NICS on white van man coming to a cinema near you soon?
In times of austerity people will only put up with that for so long and I believe we are getting near that point.
Also why are the Tories reducing corporation tax from it's present 20% to 17%? Why not keep it at 20% and spend the 3% you would have given away on public services?
If 20 to 17% is justified, why not drop corporation tax to 0 % then businesses will flock to the UK and more people will be in employment and tax revenues will increase to offset the lost tax revenues.
What is the right level of corporation tax?, maybe 26% is ok - lowest in G7.
It's not as simple as you make out?
Sorry for a rambling post, have to go now.
 
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