Post Match Thread: Election 2017

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What makes May think she has any credibilty? They need a leadership contest as soon as possible.

Her campaign has demonstrated that she is totally unsuitable to lead the Brexit negotiations. She'd struggle to negotiate her way out of a paper bag.
 
Cmon guys, I'm by no stretch a corbynite but every accusation of 'buying' student votes on legitimate manifesto pledges can be countered with similar accusations of pledges made to benefit the Tory core support in their manifesto, your only making yourselves look sour
 
You've completely misinterpreted what I said and meant. I was not aware (and am still not) about such rules. I believed that there was some precedent for the largest party to have first dibs, but I was unaware it is a hard and fast rule.

And I have heard some Labour people this very morning saying they think Corbyn should be allowed to form a minority government. Indeed did not Gordon Brown for a short time seek to do so, when he lost in 2010? I think he did.

My comment you quoted simply meant that even people who you might expect to take this stance, are saying no, it's the Tories who should be given the first go.

I am sorry if I gave you any other impression. I was not seeking to spin anything.

The Conservatives had the first go, it was calling a completely unnecessary GE because they were miles ahead in the polls...they failed miserably.
 
I don't think Corbyn will ever be PM regardless of whether there is another election in a few months time. Best thing labour could do if there is a hung parliament would be to get a leader now that people can get behind and believe in and policies they could actually deliver. Maybe then they would have a chance at serious gains on the conservatives. As it is we are in total limbo.
I totally concur, she would have lost this if we were headed by starmer or Jarvis imo, but then again, she probably wouldn't have called it. Biblical miscalculation lol
 
Cmon guys, I'm by no stretch a corbynite but every accusation of 'buying' student votes on legitimate manifesto pledges can be countered with similar accusations of pledges made to benefit the Tory core support in their manifesto, your only making yourselves look sour

You're right there fella I think they call it trying to win votes, the Tories weren't overly concerned with this tactic the dumb sods
 
Fortunately an increasing number of your fellow citizens disagree with you.

Is that 'citizens' or 'Cityzens'? Is your 'increasing number' a forecast or simply the fact that he's increased the popular vote and the number of Labour MPs to what is still a losing position. I cannot see Corbyn occupying 10 Downing Street. His views, unless he is gonna change them(!), on the whole subject of security, the economy and how you pay for your ideas, is classic left wing, and we've never had, and hopefully will never have, a left wing government. And that is a wholly left wing government, not just one that tilts a little to centre left.
 
Describing Cornyn as a proper opposition leader and this being a good result for Labour is stretching credibility. All Cornyn has done is turn a disastrous election in 2015 into a defeat in 2017. If a defeat on this scale is the best he can do after offering large voting groups sweeteners he is never going to win an election.
The only person this result was brilliant for is Andy Burnham. An election in 2023 will be perfect timing for him after his tenure as mayor.

Corbyn got the same % of votes as Blair got in 97 when he won a landslide.

Andy Burnham is a red Tory traitor.i have more chance than that little shite. No chance.
 
Describing Cornyn as a proper opposition leader and this being a good result for Labour is stretching credibility. All Cornyn has done is turn a disastrous election in 2015 into a defeat in 2017. If a defeat on this scale is the best he can do after offering large voting groups sweeteners he is never going to win an election.
The only person this result was brilliant for is Andy Burnham. An election in 2023 will be perfect timing for him after his tenure as mayor.

Stop kidding yourself. The Blairites are dead. We've had two years of Blairite smears, two years of constant media mud slinging, two leadership contests and now this election and he's still there, stronger than before. Corbyn will never be PM, but Burnham and the Blairites are finished, Burnham's tenure in Manchester is the political equivalent of a gulag.

Even the New Labour tories in the Labour Party know that con job is over, the party will never go down that right wing cul de sac again.
 
Cmon guys, I'm by no stretch a corbynite but every accusation of 'buying' student votes on legitimate manifesto pledges can be countered with similar accusations of pledges made to benefit the Tory core support in their manifesto, your only making yourselves look sour

They have had a bad night. They sound like rags who miss out on their main transfer target who say "we didn't want him anyway". The hurt is real!
 
I heard Dawn Primarolo being interviewed this morning, and if you'd just turned the TV on, you would have sworn Labour had won.

It's a bit like us sending our under 19's to play Real Madrid's first team and our lads have come back and only lost 2-1. Both teams "lost". Real for not scoring 7, and our lads, because they did actually lose.

It's very much like one of Jose's Nil Nils! It's actually a win because the other side didn't win!
 
So after a campaign by the right wing press about jezza supporting terrorist, the tories need propping up by the DUP , a party that funded and suppprted unionist terrorist groups throughout the 70's and 80's.

You couldnt make this shit up
 
So after a campaign by the right wing press about jezza supporting terrorist, the tories need propping up by the DUP , a party that funded and suppprted unionist terrorist groups throughout the 70's and 80's.

You couldn't make this shit up
 
You've completely misinterpreted what I said and meant. I was not aware (and am still not) about such rules. I believed that there was some precedent for the largest party to have first dibs, but I was unaware it is a hard and fast rule.

And I have heard some Labour people this very morning saying they think Corbyn should be allowed to form a minority government. Indeed did not Gordon Brown for a short time seek to do so, when he lost in 2010? I think he did.

My comment you quoted simply meant that even people who you might expect to take this stance, are saying no, it's the Tories who should be given the first go.

I am sorry if I gave you any other impression. I was not seeking to spin anything.

OK, that makes sense. I am surprised you didn't know though!
 
Take heed May

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.
— ABRAHAM LINCOLN.

Think she tried to remain silent, she did not tell us what she wanted for a deal with EU. She did not turn up to debates. She would not answer any direct questions. She would not talk about police numbers. Its just the people saw through her silence.
 
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