Post Match Thread: Election 2017

[Skip Donoghue]

I'm sure I heard this morning on GMB Robert Peston say the DUP wanted a hard Brexit last year even though the Irish voters didn't ....or was I hearing things?

 

[Metal Biker]

Is Theresa willingly ignoring the last 12 hours?

So, does this mean no re-run election in Autumn?

 

[Chippy_boy]

I'm sure I heard this morning on GMB Robert Peston say the DUP wanted a hard Brexit last year even though the Irish voters didn't ....or was I hearing things?

To be fair, I thought that was their position too, but I just assumed I'd got it wrong based on the commentary on here over the past hour or two.

 

[RandomJ]

I give it 2 months. We'll all be back at the polls by October.

 

[Manchester_lalala]

Looks like she's staying.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The shit the Tories have put this country though over the past 2 years, all for the sake of settling their own infighting is beyond the pale. Shall we just take another look at this? They've brought these people in to prop up their government? And yet people still insist Corbyn would drag us backwards? People arguing about Corbyn not doing enough to appeal to the middle ground. The middle ground prefers this? Shame on them then. This is a national embarrassment.

Abortion should be “ruled out for rape victims”
The Pope is the Anti-Christ
Gay couples “more likely to abuse children”
“Homosexuality is an abomination”
No gay marriage
“Gays more vile than child abusers”
Attempts to reduce CO2 emissions are “Green propaganda”
Claims that fossil fuels will run out are “nonsense”
“Man-made climate change is a con”
Creationism should be “taught in every school”
Removal of evolutionary teaching from the curriculum
The 60 million-year-old Giant’s Causeway is only 6,000 years old
Line dancing is “sinful”

They seem like a right laugh.

 

[mekonmcfc]

I don't think they did concentrate on Brexit.

Its all she daid, Strong and stable to deliver a hard brexit

 

[Blue Llama]

I'm still very concerned about Brexit. Tariff-free access to the single market is essential imo, unless we are all for a period of sustained hardship, irrespective of which government.

I don't think raising corporation tax at this difficult time however, would have done anything other than terrible harm, and I am glad we have knocked that on the head for the time-being at least.

I don't see tariffs as an issue. Germany have a big say in Europe and I don't think the likes of BMW, Mercedes, BASF, Siemens etc would be hugely delighted to see their goods burdened with tariffs.

 

[aguero93:20]

I'm sure I heard this morning on GMB Robert Peston say the DUP wanted a hard Brexit last year even though the Irish voters didn't ....or was I hearing things?

Nah, a few of their MPs might but their members and electorate are dead against it, go look at the referendum result in NI.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

they need to scrap all the policies on social care, triple lock, fox hunting and focus on investment, especially in the police and nhs.

 

[The perfect fumble]

No, I meant in the respect of trying to secure a softer Brexit. Hence the words, "in that respect".

You must be feeling pretty positive too, I would imagine? A hard Brexit looks less likely (how less we could debate, but it's certainly not more likely), and your man did better than pretty much anyone expected. You must be pleased, no?

Surely you were not expecting Corbyn to win, were you?

I was not expecting a Corbyn win.

But a soft Brexit is not really an option for the Tories, the party won't stomach it. Maybe Len Rum is right and we'll see the Tory Party split.

 

[Blue Hefner]

Her speach seemed to be in total isolation of the circumstances

 

[Akiva]

I'm sure I heard this morning on GMB Robert Peston say the DUP wanted a hard Brexit last year even though the Irish voters didn't ....or was I hearing things?

Not sure what you heard mate, but the DUP are strongly in favor of a soft Brexit. They campaigned under that banner for this election. Their leader in particular, Arlene Foster, campaigned for Remain.

This article sums it up pretty well - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...portant-democratic-unionist-party-could-hold/

 

[Gabriel]

Must watch Springwatch on BBC2 tonight. Apparently they've spotted a Cabinet Minister.

 

[RandomJ]

Her speach seemed to be in total isolation of the circumstances

"Election? What election? Back to work everyone".

 

[Lancet Fluke]

mocked in PMQ's every time he spoke, half of his party wanted him out not that long ago, Tory supporters cheering his reappointment, the right wing smear from the Murdoch empire... and May announcing this election to put the final nail in his coffin

dam right this a success for Corbyn

Yes it is a relative success for Corbyn but my point is that this is more about May's failures. She has been an absolute disgrace since she announced the election and immediately seemed to think she could take the electorate's support for granted without having to make any effort at all. So yes, a relative success for Corbyn but I still think Labour with a middle ground leader would have caned her last night. But as I said, if Labour had not had a proper lefty as leader there would have been no election last night anyway.

 

[Chippy_boy]

I don't see tariffs as an issue. Germany have a big say in Europe and I don't think the likes of BMW, Mercedes, BASF, Siemens etc would be hugely delighted to see their goods burdened with tariffs.

We've debated this ad nauseum mate. It is my view that the most important thing for Germany is that the EU holds together and that the UK breaking away, does not become the beginning of the end for the whole of the EU as we know it.

That imo is far more important to them than a 1 or 2% drop in BMW's global sales (maybe a 10% drop in exports to the UK). This "they need us more than we need them" line is a misleading statement. Every single EU country bar none, exports less to the UK than we do to the EU as a whole. A bad deal hurts us more than it hurts any single EU country. And any drop in BMW sales to the UK would in any event be offset somewhat by more BMWs being sold to would be Jaguar buyers in other EU countries. The bottom line is that Germany would hardly notice if we had a 10% export tariff. We'd be up shit creek.

 

[geoff clipp]

They've a few nutters TBH mate but they're far from the worst, as an Irishman I'm happier with the DUP involved in the Brexit negotiations, the north needed some kind of representation and they were never going to get it from the Tories or Labour.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

 

[jonmcity]

"Election? What election? Back to work everyone".

Doing what she did throughout the election campaign, ignore everyone and stick to a script.

 

[Skip Donoghue]

Here are some of the DUP’s opinions:

Abortion should be “ruled out for rape victims”
The Pope is the Anti-Christ
Gay couples “more likely to abuse children”
“Homosexuality is an abomination”
No gay marriage
“Gays more vile than child abusers”
Attempts to reduce CO2 emissions are “Green propaganda”
Claims that fossil fuels will run out are “nonsense”
“Man-made climate change is a con”
Creationism should be “taught in every school”
Removal of evolutionary teaching from the curriculum
The 60 million-year-old Giant’s Causeway is only 6,000 years old
Line dancing is “sinful”

Haha WOW