For me the issue is not so much whether the super rich pay their taxes or not. The big issue is whether they spend enough of their money.
If you redistributed all Branson's money to the poorest million in the country they would probably spend all of it. In pubs, shops, restaurants etc
This is good for the economy. Branson has so much money he can't spend even a fraction of it. The super rich stockpiling money is not good for the economy and this is why the sort of inequality we are seeing now is counterproductive.
Is there any evidence that more was on offer than a commitment to continue extra funding to NI or that the DUP was offered something that other NI parties weren't?I just love the small of hypocracy first thing in the morning....
http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/11/labou...ast-time-there-was-a-hung-parliament-6701733/
Forgive me a little giggle for you not being in power AGAIN then. Hehehehe.
For me the issue for the Labour party is to be honest - which their manifesto was not.May is toast. Dead woman walking. The dichotomy for Labour supporters has been played out in this thread. Stick with Corbyn, an old school leftie who espouses the traditional values of the original Labour movement. Despite that appearing unpalatable to many voters. Or choose a more moderate candidate who tries taking centre ground to make the party more likely to be elected.
Personally, I want the party to stick to its core values even if that make them less electable. Others will argue that you should be centrist to have the best chance of government. It's an interesting debate for Labour supporters
I don't despise the left, I'm an active part of it you clown. What I despise are people who want to "wait for the right Government".
I think you're not only arrogant but infinitely worse than this you're cruel. You dare to tell the disadvantaged, the underprivileged and those in poverty that you're fighting for them while purposely serving up policy that you KNOW will never be electable. Rather than attempting to help them, you tell them that they can only be helped on YOUR terms, when the ideology is right for YOU. It's disgusting. Grotesque. A act of vindictive evilness to give hope to the suffering when you have no intention of honouring it. No intention of compromise so that they can live in a little less discomfort. It's always all about you lot and your special little principles that are SO moral that everybody else has to wait and instead heat their houses with the warm glow of your ethical smugness.
If a Tory Government lines up tomorrow that will fund public services to a world class degree, pursue a progressive social agenda and invest in downtrodden communities infrastructure then I'd vote for them in a heartbeat. I'd vote for pretty much any party in the world who would do that. Because it's not about me, not about handwringing about tie colours.
Because it's about making the people who are fucked, less fucked and doing it right now instead of "waiting for the right Government". All of your lot on the far left are a bunch of jumped up self righteous tossers. You are fucking useless to me.
Labour signed the contract for the 2 useless aircraft carriers, and if you go back further they massively screwed our our aircraft manufacturing industry with the complete mismanagement of the TSR2 project.For "update security policy" read make drastic cuts. The biggest cuts to the armed forces have been under the Tories in the late 50s, mid 90s and since 2010. Now I expect a peace dividend from the end of the Cold War and I've got no problem with a policy of not always going to go looking for wars to fight but don't pretend that it's Labour governments who have "decimated" the armed forces.
Many hundreds will go and work abroad if that is the case. Hell the way Jeremy Hunt treated the Junior Doctors many are already considering just this.
Seriously though, do you have any idea how much work a junior doctor does? They put in extra hours to make sure patients get good treatment and treatment notes are written up for the next shift - well above and beyond what they should do by law. This article says it all though my daughter would say she does between 55 and 70 hours a week on average.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/hea...100-hour-weeks-despite-European-laws-BMA.html
And all this for a pretty poor salary for their qualifications and intelligence. All my daughter's piers have been on twice the Salary she's on for nigh on 8 years. It's clawed back a bit now she's a top grade registrar but it won't get any better till she's a consultant (though she will probably never earn as a consultant as she will go into teaching at med school).
Even better explanation than your previous excellent post.
Surely even the 'hard of understanding' can now get it
I just love the small of hypocracy first thing in the morning....
http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/11/labou...ast-time-there-was-a-hung-parliament-6701733/
This is isn't New Labour.
Get that through your skull.
This is isn't New Labour.
Get that through your skull.
I don't despise the left, I'm an active part of it you clown. What I despise are people who want to "wait for the right Government".
I think you're not only arrogant but infinitely worse than this you're cruel. You dare to tell the disadvantaged, the underprivileged and those in poverty that you're fighting for them while purposely serving up policy that you KNOW will never be electable. Rather than attempting to help them, you tell them that they can only be helped on YOUR terms, when the ideology is right for YOU. It's disgusting. Grotesque. A act of vindictive evilness to give hope to the suffering when you have no intention of honouring it. No intention of compromise so that they can live in a little less discomfort. It's always all about you lot and your special little principles that are SO moral that everybody else has to wait and instead heat their houses with the warm glow of your ethical smugness.
If a Tory Government lines up tomorrow that will fund public services to a world class degree, pursue a progressive social agenda and invest in downtrodden communities infrastructure then I'd vote for them in a heartbeat. I'd vote for pretty much any party in the world who would do that. Because it's not about me, not about handwringing about tie colours.
Because it's about making the people who are fucked, less fucked and doing it right now instead of "waiting for the right Government". All of your lot on the far left are a bunch of jumped up self righteous tossers. You are fucking useless to me.
And Gordon Brown didn't run under a New Labour platform either. If you think he did then you either don't know what New Labour is or don't know who Gordon Brown is.
It never fails to amaze how the losers in the Party continue to denigrate the only time we've ever won in the last half-century or so
Brown, even more than Blair, was the true architect of New Labour. It was Brown who recognised, long before any of his contemporaries, just how much Labour would have to change in order to survive. It was Brown, not Blair, who built the machine to force through that change. It was Brown, not Blair, who imposed iron fiscal discipline. It was Brown, not Blair, who wooed business, and sacrificed the sacred Labour cows of tax and spend.
But history is written by the victors. So after New Labour had become toxic, and Brown had successfully moved against his bitter rival, he ensured his role within the grand modernising project was expunged from the record books.
And so now a new history must be written. Gordon Brown the Saviour. Of the nation. Of the Union. Of the party he loves. It will be a fiction, but that is irrelevant. Precedent decrees every prime ministerial career must end in success.
Depends on your point of view...
No.
"It never fails to amaze how the losers in the Party continue to denigrate the only time we've ever won in the last half-century or so" relates to a statement of fact. It's not an opinion.
As has been seen in the last few weeks, the role of the Police is more than just reducing crime statistics.How do you define an adequate police force?
I ask because as far as I can see based on crime statistics the police force are doing a great job.
Back in the 1980's I worked at British Aerospace. I had been an unashamed Thatcherite previously but, working in an industrial setting for the first time, it was starting to become clear what she was about. More by accident than design, I became union secretary for ASTMS as it was then and it brought me into contact with people much more political than I was. Two of those, Paul Murphy (my union chair) & Jack Flanagan (my branch chair) were Manchester councillors. Paul was very much on the right of the party whereas Jack was more difficult to pin down. I'd say he was more centre-left publicly but maybe privately a bit to the right. Through their eyes I saw the battles they were having with Militant Tendency along with people like Richard Leese & Graham Stringer. They'd pack Paul's meeting in Lightbowne but he'd pack more of his supporters in. He was always on the verge of being disciplined by the mainstream Labour left but they never quite had enough support to manage it. He fought on for what he thought was right, regardless of the labels slung at him, which was making the lives of his constituents better as far as he could.
Not sure what became of Jack but the other three are still there, doing their bit for the people of Manchester. Momentum are relatively harmless compared to Militant. You should fight for what you believe in as you appear to believe in the right things.