Kylian Mbappe

[Hart of the Matter]

That notwithstanding I am still at something of a loss in understanding what our financial limits are. At the time of signing Neymar, PSG hadn't already spent £210m, and amortisation or not £370m is a phenomenal amount to spend in one window, particularly when TV and EPL prize money combined only came to about £150m I think.
Not concerned by it, just trying to get my head around it

A true annual cost of a player is his wages and amortisation fee. This is where some confusion arises. I.e. Sterling 45m over 5 years (9m pa) And wages of 8m = 17m PA
We have lost some amortised fees on players sold and of some we have kept and we have lost a shit load off the wage bill - Hart, Willy, Sagne, Zabs, Kolorov, Cliche, fern and potentially Nasri, Delph, Bony and Mangala. Upto 10 top earners replaced by potentially 7/8 middling to top. We also have a reduction in Yayas fees. I reckon freed up and reduced wages if diverted to transfers could equal 20m saving PA ( or 100m extra amortised)
50m extra tv/ trading funding = 250m amortised transfer capacity
We also had a trading surplus last year of 20m = 100m transfer capacity.
Any transfer fees we receive in addition i.e. Nacho etc is generally an in year profit and icing on the cake...
I believe we have plenty of financial capacity to meet the demands of FFP even if we end up spending 450m

 

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

It's been explained on several threads AND PSG didn't involve third parties at all. That was made up by papers before Neymar signed as virtually no journalists understand how a transfer is actually accounted for.

Exeter requested a decent mathematical soul, mate (:

 

[Young Blue]

Article in The Independent saying that Monaco's manager Jardim says Mbappe could be sold for the right price.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...elona-arsenal-manchester-united-a7876566.html

Strangely they mention Man United interest but not ours?
I wonder if they could be going for him? I doubt they would have FFP problems.
I Hope not!

 

[City_Sean]

Article in The Independent saying that Monaco's manager Jardim says Mbappe could be sold for the right price.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...elona-arsenal-manchester-united-a7876566.html

Strangely they mention Man United interest but not ours?
I wonder if they could be going for him? I doubt they would have FFP problems.
I Hope not!

Mbappe isn't an idiot. He's not joining a club that plays turgid football which doesn't suit him. Hes been told he can move for footballing reasons, not United's rugby style.

 

[Daz_Blue]

Article in The Independent saying that Monaco's manager Jardim says Mbappe could be sold for the right price.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...elona-arsenal-manchester-united-a7876566.html

Strangely they mention Man United interest but not ours?
I wonder if they could be going for him? I doubt they would have FFP problems.
I Hope not!

City dont have FFP problems

 

[Young Blue]

City dont have FFP problems

We don't now but it could be tricky if we buy all Pep's apparent targets: Mbappe, Sanchez and CB in addition to all other spending?

 

[BimboBob]

We don't now but it could be tricky if we buy all Pep's apparent targets: Mbappe, Sanchez and CB in addition to all other spending?

We are not going to buy Mbappe and Sanchez. Don't be an idiot.

 

[dannyboiblue]

Never considered this but I reckon your onto something here.

Also much more easy to bench the young lad as to not burn him out etc. Pep is world class and has managed the best talent in the world many times

 

[Sunny Coast Blue]

That was my thinking, all pointing in the right direction. Sunday express have us in the race for bale would you believe? So Madrid can fund the mbappe transfer. Talk about stealing a living with some of these hacks.

Some, they are all lying wankers giving hacks a bad name.

 

[waspish]

We don't now but it could be tricky if we buy all Pep's apparent targets: Mbappe, Sanchez and CB in addition to all other spending?

Don't worry about ffp we can spend 500m and be alright

 

[Young Blue]

Mbappe isn't an idiot. He's not joining a club that plays turgid football which doesn't suit him. Hes been told he can move for footballing reasons, not United's rugby style.

I imagine Monaco would sell for "hard cash" not "footballing reasons".

 

[BillyShears]

FFP isn't an issue. We can afford him. We're going to end up bringing in 100 million or so in sales. We can have a net spend of 250/300 million. Amortised it works out at around 50/60 million per season in costs over the next five or so years. But because of the age profile of players we've bought the likelihood is that our spend would drop dramatically in the next few seasons anyway.

In terms of the transfer itself. Remained cautiously optimistic at best for the last couple of months. But this morning i find myself believing more and more that we can pull this off in the next two weeks.

 

[Young Blue]

Don't worry about ffp we can spend 500m and be alright

Wow that would be good, hope you are right.
The other clubs won't like it :)

 

[domalino]

Tumbled due to the Leroy photo.

Which was exactly my point...

 

[burning blue soul]

Article in The Independent saying that Monaco's manager Jardim says Mbappe could be sold for the right price.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...elona-arsenal-manchester-united-a7876566.html

Strangely they mention Man United interest but not ours?
I wonder if they could be going for him? I doubt they would have FFP problems.
I Hope not!

dont be surprised, they name drop utd all the time just to sell their stories.

a lot of posters on here get annoyed when papers continue to name drop utd in deals we are sniffing around on, but i prefer it this way. we know we are in for all the big players now if they suit our system, but wouldnt it become annoying to be linked (and our clubs good name used/abused) to every player that is being sold just so these newspaper parasites can sell bullshit stories!!?

 

[happy]

Is the real impact of FFP the fact that football fans now know the meaning of the word amortised?

 

[Young Blue]

We are not going to buy Mbappe and Sanchez. Don't be an idiot.

Don't be insulting. Other posters are saying there is no problem with FFP. Are they"idiots" too?

 

[dronefromsector7G]

Is the real impact of FFP the fact that football fans now know the meaning of the word amortised?

This is a good thing. I like the word and intend to use it more in everyday conversations.

 

[burning blue soul]

Is the real impact of FFP the fact that football fans now know the meaning of the word amortised?

haha!! a few years ago i couldnt give a monkeys how the finances were massaged at city.......by fuck!!!, i know now!!

 

[City_Sean]

I imagine Monaco would sell for "hard cash" not "footballing reasons".

I think they actually care about Mbappe's wishes, and like I've said, Mbappe won't join a Mourinho team.