Veganism

SWP's back said:
Your one and only argument is "I like animals and it upsets me that you eat them".

Now tell me, since I'm only using facts and evidence and scientific opinion, how I'm the one sounding like a religious nut? They tend to tell others have to live their lives, they tend to rely on their feelings, they ignore nature and facts and science, it again, like the tiny penis jibe, seems as if you're projecting, my ashen little solider.
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Your 'God/nature made us this way' has been your only argument. I said weeks ago it was fallacy, you begged to differ for some peculiar reason. Again, I am not arguing the eating of dead meat.. that would be preposterous. I argue ethics. I am arguing about owning other sentient creatures, harming them, slaughtering them. You apparently think it's a-ok.. hence you are ignorant on the subject.

I rely on science. The science that says fish, cows, pigs, chickens, sheep are all richly sentient. I rely on anti-speciesism. I rely on value. I rely on respecting sentience. Obviously you do not.
 
BJL_City said:
where are you getting your B12 and other benefits from then? Fortified foods, so your food has to be supplemented with it to make it healthy enough for you to live off. So it's true.
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Careful trial and error over the years so i know which foods i need to eat to get everything i need,i don't eat anything fortified just a variety that contains what i need,you are talking bollocks
 
MellowJoe said:
Your 'God/nature made us this way' has been your only argument. I said weeks ago it was fallacy, you begged to differ for some peculiar reason. Again, I am not arguing the eating of dead meat.. that would be preposterous. I argue ethics. I am arguing about owning other sentient creatures, harming them, slaughtering them. You apparently think it's a-ok.. hence you are ignorant on the subject.

I rely on science. The science that says fish, cows, pigs, chickens, sheep are all richly sentient. I rely on anti-speciesism. I rely on value. I rely on respecting sentience. Obviously you do not.
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He relies on a McDonald's drive thru.....
 
MellowJoe said:
Your 'God/nature made us this way' has been your only argument. I said weeks ago it was fallacy, you begged to differ for some peculiar reason. Again, I am not arguing the eating of dead meat.. that would be preposterous. I argue ethics. I am arguing about owning other sentient creatures, harming them, slaughtering them. You apparently think it's a-ok.. hence you are ignorant on the subject.

I rely on science. The science that says fish, cows, pigs, chickens, sheep are all richly sentient. I rely on anti-speciesism. I rely on value. I rely on respecting sentience. Obviously you do not.
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How is it a fallacy? You keep saying that as without it being one, your house of cards theory vanishes to nothing. And stop using god when referencing my argument that humans have always eaten meat. There is no God and thus involving it in any argument is pointless.

You've just repeated what I said, your one argument is that you like animals and thus you don't want people to eat them. You're authoritarian, you feel you should decide what everyone else can and can't eat based on predilection for other species.

What makes you feel that you're so important that you can enforce your alt lifestyle on everyone else? You don't like it but humans are the apex predator, you're lucky you are a human as your last about two minutes if you'd have been born as any other predator. Do you think there's sharks swimming about questioning the morals of eating a seal? What makes you think that humans are above the rest of the animal kingdom?
 
karen7 said:
Careful trial and error over the years so i know which foods i need to eat to get everything i need,i don't eat anything fortified just a variety that contains what i need,you are talking bollocks
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You can't be a vegan (thread subject) and get B12 with supplements or fortified foods.
 
SWP's back said:
How is it a fallacy? You keep saying that as without it being one, your house of cards theory vanishes to nothing. And stop using god when referencing my argument that humans have always eaten meat. There is no God and thus involving it in any argument is pointless.

You've just repeated what I said, your one argument is that you like animals and thus you don't want people to eat them. You're authoritarian, you feel you should decide what everyone else can and can't eat based on predilection for other species.

What makes you feel that you're so important that you can enforce your alt lifestyle on everyone else? You don't like it but humans are the apex predator, you're lucky you are a human as your last about two minutes if you'd have been born as any other predator. Do you think there's sharks swimming about questioning the morals of eating a seal? What makes you think that humans are above the rest of the animal kingdom?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature

I don't like animals. I respect their sentience.. I know that's too hard for you to understand though.
 
MellowJoe said:
He is obviously living fantastic life.. a brilliant life, a life of such great value that it somehow eclipses the torment of the chickens, sheep, cows, turkeys etc. he pays for and consumes. Yeah. Sure.
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Yeah it's pretty top actually.

And I'm no where near as moanie as spuds like you.
 
SWP's back said:
At least you can agree that eating meat is natural and by logic, not eating meat is unnatural.

We are finally getting somewhere.
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Again.. appealing to nature.. you just don't get it do you. Everything is natural. What else is there other than nature?

Christ, we've hijacked evolution. Condoms, pills, books, stories. We don't have to live by those rules anymore you know.
 
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