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Lancet Fluke said:
It bothers me too that central defence seems to be so low on our priorities, I think it's ridiculous when we have such high quality in other areas that we only have one excellent CB and I really think VVD should have been a priority this window after the full backs. But we have Pep as manager and it's not the way it is. He'd rather sign Sanchez and probably even Mbappe as well before properly strengthening the CB area. It frustrates me but it is what it is and in these circumstances I'm just relieved we are getting someone in with a bit of leadership because I don't trust otamendi or stones to look after themselves or each other. Actually I'm not relieved, I'm underwhelmed and a bit pissed off but I suspect he will be better than the alternatives if we've decided we aren't going to buy someone first rate.
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As you know, I agree, but I do think Stones looks like he is starting to get it right.
 
We are going to score so many goals this season with the signings that the CBs will just need to be solid and dependable. Jonny Evans is no world beater but experienced enough that he won't stuff up like Stones is prone to. A good stop gap for us whilst Stones matures into a future City stalwart.
 
Lancet Fluke said:
It bothers me too that central defence seems to be so low on our priorities, I think it's ridiculous when we have such high quality in other areas that we only have one excellent CB and I really think VVD should have been a priority this window after the full backs. But we have Pep as manager and it's not the way it is. He'd rather sign Sanchez and probably even Mbappe as well before properly strengthening the CB area. It frustrates me but it is what it is and in these circumstances I'm just relieved we are getting someone in with a bit of leadership because I don't trust otamendi or stones to look after themselves or each other. Actually I'm not relieved, I'm underwhelmed and a bit pissed off but I suspect he will be better than the alternatives if we've decided we aren't going to buy someone first rate.
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Fair play mate underwhelmed is probably the best word to describe the situation
 
fairhurst1 said:
We are going to score so many goals this season with the signings that the CBs will just need to be solid and dependable. Jonny Evans is no world beater but experienced enough that he won't stuff up like Stones is prone to. A good stop gap for us whilst Stones matures into a future City stalwart.
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stalwart, that's the spirit!
 
eversince 76 said:
They don't. But my guess is they have done so this time with options running out.

Honestly, there is a reasons why transfers has been discusses till boredom on here. You and me being part of it. But nobody never ever came up with the name of John Evans. It is reasonable to ask yourself: why is that?
Furthermore whatever Pep and Txiki decide will come true and whatever is the general opinion on here won't. Luckily so. But that doesn't mean one can vent their opinion and that opinion with a lot on here (and count me in) is that Evans is at best a decent defender, 29 years, injuryprone, playing in an Albion/Pullis team that plays very defensively in contrast to the high line defence Pep is weighing up (either 3 of 4 men). It simply doesn't fill me with any confidence. Do you feel confident with Evans in the team?
And no, Mangala (probably on his way anyway) and young Tosin won't give me confidence but especially the latter would have been my choice over Evans any time of the day. I know you or many won't agree with that, but that is simply the way I look at it.
And I'm not talking about the money involved, as City has been an important influence in how todays market turns out. But if rumours are true, Mangala going for 10mill? And with Kolarov leaving for 5mill? We than buy back Evans for a mere 20-25mill? Sheik Mansour must either be blind to Pep and Txiki or this might actually open his eyes and make him wonder who is playing with his money.
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Tosin's a hard one to judge at this stage, cos he's so young, and playing centre half in a Pep team (naked as a jay bird) takes some getting used to. From what I've seen so far, he's still a long way shy of the standard required, given to blind panic passing under pressure, not being aware of where his opponents are, and having an inconsistent first touch. I'd be interested to see him in 2 or 3 years time when he's filled out a bit, but right now I'd take Evans over him every time.
For the record I've always been too busy hating Evans on principle to ever look at his attributes, but my Rangers supporting mate Davey, who follows Northern Ireland over land and sea and far away, described him to me thus this morning......
"An excellent player, one of the most naturally gifted NI has ever had. Reasonable pace and reads the game well too. I remember Ferguson giving an interview to the Belfast Telegraph and saying he was stunned that Van Gaal let him leave."

None of us would have really wanted him in an ideal world, but we need a centre half, options are limited, and Evans is far from the comical choice that many are making out
 
eversince 76 said:
They don't. But my guess is they have done so this time with options running out.

Honestly, there is a reasons why transfers has been discusses till boredom on here. You and me being part of it. But nobody never ever came up with the name of John Evans. It is reasonable to ask yourself: why is that?
Furthermore whatever Pep and Txiki decide will come true and whatever is the general opinion on here won't. Luckily so. But that doesn't mean one can vent their opinion and that opinion with a lot on here (and count me in) is that Evans is at best a decent defender, 29 years, injuryprone, playing in an Albion/Pullis team that plays very defensively in contrast to the high line defence Pep is weighing up (either 3 of 4 men). It simply doesn't fill me with any confidence. Do you feel confident with Evans in the team?
And no, Mangala (probably on his way anyway) and young Tosin won't give me confidence but especially the latter would have been my choice over Evans any time of the day. I know you or many won't agree with that, but that is simply the way I look at it.
And I'm not talking about the money involved, as City has been an important influence in how todays market turns out. But if rumours are true, Mangala going for 10mill? And with Kolarov leaving for 5mill? We than buy back Evans for a mere 20-25mill? Sheik Mansour must either be blind to Pep and Txiki or this might actually open his eyes and make him wonder who is playing with his money.
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I said yesterday, I have not paid Evans enough attention to give an opinion on just how good he is but I don't think uninspiringly solid isn't far from the mark. No one on this forum would have picked him out because he is an ex-Rag and he's not a special player.

My point about how players are selected was a general one and not specifically about how City arrived at Evans' name and it is possible he was not on any previously complied list but I'd hope and expect some homework has been done on the player.

Would I feel confident with Evans in the team? With one or two of Vinnie, Ota, Stones, flanked by Walker and Mendy and backed-up by Ederson - probably in most games. Against certain opponents I'd rather have Manga's pace and I'd be fairly happy to keep Managa as 4th choice but I think Evans is a steadier player.

Tosin is a kid and we need a man. I'd be worried about any game that Tosin started. I hope he will mature into a valuable member of City's squad but he just isn't ready in my eyes.

I don't really have time to comment on the transfer fee comparison but each situation is different. I'm really not sure what Evans' correct price is but the seller holds the cards in this instance in an inflated market so we will "overpay" if we get him.
 
Exeter Blue I am here said:
Tosin's a hard one to judge at this stage, cos he's so young, and playing centre half in a Pep team (naked as a jay bird) takes some getting used to. From what I've seen so far, he's still a long way shy of the standard required, given to blind panic passing under pressure, not being aware of where his opponents are, and having an inconsistent first touch. I'd be interested to see him in 2 or 3 years time when he's filled out a bit, but right now I'd take Evans over him every time.
For the record I've always been too busy hating Evans on principle to ever look at his attributes, but my Rangers supporting mate Davey, who follows Northern Ireland over land and sea and far away, described him to me thus this morning......
"An excellent player, one of the most naturally gifted NI has ever had. Reasonable pace and reads the game well too. I remember Ferguson giving an interview to the Belfast Telegraph and saying he was stunned that Van Gaal let him leave."

None of us would have really wanted him in an ideal world, but we need a centre half, options are limited, and Evans is far from the comical choice that many are making out
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Well put.
 
OB1 said:
Well put.
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You always stood up for him, now did you. Seriously, there's no right or wrong in either vision. Only in hindsight we will find out IF Evans was a quality choice by the manager, or one to be on the Pep-flops list. Up until that moment I differ opinions and stand by the fact Evans either as a player at Albion or Northern Ireland has ever played the way Pep wants his defenders to play. It's that particular point that doesn't exite me the least. As Kompany said not too long ago how he spotted the differences with the City players that have been training with Pep for over a year now, and the ones coming back from a loan and not understanding what Pep wants. Now I very much doubt Evans will understand quicker than anyone else, let alone him performing in that way. Outscoring the opponent will become a much bigger issue ...
 
When I first read this I was in disbelief, to be honest due to my natural hating of all things rag. The more I think about this the more sense it makes. 20 mil is a small price to pay for an experienced pl cb who is decent enough with his feet to play as a rotational option at cb in the lesser games. He has experience on his side and id feel comfortable with him slotting into our defence against some of the less difficult opposition we will face to rest vinny. He's a quality stop gap which allows us to go big next year on a long term replacement who also keeps our home grown quota where it needs to be. 20 mil is a small price to pay for someone who ticks nearly every box we need in a back up cb despite him being a rag twunt. It also leaves the option of an incoming sanchez on the table to cap off an excellent xfer window.
 
BlueMoonie said:
When I first read this I was in disbelief, to be honest due to my natural hating of all things rag. The more I think about this the more sense it makes. 20 mil is a small price to pay for an experienced pl cb who is decent enough with his feet to play as a rotational option at cb in the lesser games. He has experience on his side and id feel comfortable with him slotting into our defence against some of the less difficult opposition we will face to rest vinny. He's a quality stop gap which allows us to go big next year on a long term replacement who also keeps our home grown quota where it needs to be. 20 mil is a small price to pay for someone who ticks nearly every box we need in a back up cb despite him being a rag twunt. It also leaves the option of an incoming sanchez on the table to cap off an excellent xfer window.
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Agreed though it does stick in the craw a little paying over £50M to Pullis
 
So tracksuit tony has stated that unless a large offer comes in they can't refuse,Evans will stay and they are in no need to sell,seems like we are going to pay way over the odds for him wouldn't be surprised they are looking for a ball park figure closer to £40mill or more ..
 
My rag mate described him as "two-footed...i.e. equally bad with both feet". I can't say I'm doing cartwheels at the prospect of seeing Evans in a City shirt but, as always, if it happens then he gets 100% support.
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
Oh it's been a bloody cracker, except for CB. I'd just rather we didn't make a move if the move is Mangala out and Evans in.
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Tend to agree,but to be fair we all want mangala to be the player we wanted him to be when he signed,but bar the odd good tackle the majority of his game is made up of poor positioning,concentration issues and car crash moments in games,Evans at least brings a wealth of experience from league to Europe,and although no cb is perfect from making mistakes he's a lot better than mangala,maybe if his name was Evansinho people would be wa**ing themselves silly over wanting him signed up..l
 
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