Tunnel bust-up after derby

Ric said:
It looks like we might be seeing the first true signs of vulnerability for Mourinho at United. It's still only slight rumblings of discontent as yet, but you get the feeling that slowly but surely the press and United fans are starting to turn on him. It'll be interesting to see how this season pans out, as it is usually his second season where he enjoys his greatest success, before imploding in his third season. Could it be happening a year earlier this time around, solely because of Guardiola and City?
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hope not, God forbid they actually fall upon a setup that works.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
I talked to my Dad about this last night. You can tell that the United fans are starting to doubt him. They can put all the bravado on they want but if they have an IQ over 50 it is obvious how much of a fool he's looked this weekend, whereas his nemesis's star has shone even brighter. This result could hit their season hard, and if it does the discontent will grow quickly. Most of them weren't aware, or were deluding themselves, about how far behind us they really are.

The interesting thing is that United aren't going to be sacking him for a long time because there is nowhere else they can really go from here. They've tried the steady Ediie British manager, they've tried the foreign tactical guru and they've been forced to fall back on the big mouth trophy winner. Where do they go next if Mourinho fails?

This has really turned out to be a more seminal weekend in the football power struggle than I ever envisaged.
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I would imagine Pochettino will be the man they turn to after Mourinho.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
I talked to my Dad about this last night. You can tell that the United fans are starting to doubt him. They can put all the bravado on they want but if they have an IQ over 50 it is obvious how much of a fool he's looked this weekend, whereas his nemesis's star has shone even brighter. This result could hit their season hard, and if it does the discontent will grow quickly. Most of them weren't aware, or were deluding themselves, about how far behind us they really are.

The interesting thing is that United aren't going to be sacking him for a long time because there is nowhere else they can really go from here. They've tried the steady Ediie British manager, they've tried the foreign tactical guru and they've been forced to fall back on the big mouth trophy winner. Where do they go next if Mourinho fails?

This has really turned out to be a more seminal weekend in the football power struggle than I ever envisaged.
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They could go back down the 'rebuilding' route, again, where 'results don't really matter' bring in Pochettino & Harry Kane & pretend to have a young side, who are learning.

The other way could be to upgrade total ****s & bring in the modern one from Atletico.
 
I see big nose is calling Pep immature because a man solves his problems. I think he did he benched big nose until he could get shut problem solved.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
I talked to my Dad about this last night. You can tell that the United fans are starting to doubt him. They can put all the bravado on they want but if they have an IQ over 50 it is obvious how much of a fool he's looked this weekend, whereas his nemesis's star has shone even brighter. This result could hit their season hard, and if it does the discontent will grow quickly. Most of them weren't aware, or were deluding themselves, about how far behind us they really are.

The interesting thing is that United aren't going to be sacking him for a long time because there is nowhere else they can really go from here. They've tried the steady Ediie British manager, they've tried the foreign tactical guru and they've been forced to fall back on the big mouth trophy winner. Where do they go next if Mourinho fails?

This has really turned out to be a more seminal weekend in the football power struggle than I ever envisaged.
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I'm not sure about that. Ancelotti would take that job.

There's a reason United have been dragging their heels on a contract extension that Mourinho has less than two years to run.

Caught between a rock and a hard place of not wanting to pay out huge compo in the future.

Mourinho tends to get a new contract and get sacked soon after.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I'm not sure about that. Ancelotti would take that job.

There's a reason United have been dragging their heels on a contract extension that Mourinho has less than two years to run.

Caught between a rock and a hard place of not wanting to pay out huge compo in the future.

Mourinho tends to get a new contract and get sacked soon after.
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Shame this never materialised!

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If you tell a rag that they only got Maureen because we got Pep, and their club was interested in a high-profile manager rather than a talented one, you can watch their life force fade as the realisation dawns that we got the better deal.
 
East Level 2 said:
If you tell a rag that they only got Maureen because we got Pep, and their club was interested in a high-profile manager rather than a talented one, you can watch their life force fade as the realisation dawns that we got the better deal.
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I was actually at that briefing when Woodward insisted they were happy with LVG and were never interested in Pep.

Very amusing.
 
The only thing that worries me about Mourinho's difficulties is that I can remember clearly the mounting difficulties of another obnoxious *!$** thirty years ago and United's response was to throw more and more money at the problem each year, as the fury of their fans - funnily enough only about 35000 then - grew, until seven years later the manager got it right. My real hope and belief is that it is a completely different world now and the shareholders won't be allowed to bale Mourinho out like they did the old bacon faced one, but the football his teams played was just as boring as the stuff Mou's lot dish up. Hopefully Mourinho is genuinely past his sell-by date as a coach and tactician and that his accusations that City players dive and commit tactical fouls (didn't they used to be known as "professional" fouls? - and no English side ever stooped to those depths!) along with his assertion that celebrating a win is lacking respect, were simple preparations for dealing with the defeat he knew to be inevitable because he has no answer to this City team. It isn't working with the United fans I know. They all find him an embarrassment, hate the football served up and admit freely to their admiration of Pe p. Many in the media seem to have reached a tipping point on Sunday, but the Mail is still having a go at perpetuating this image of Mourinho as the smooth operator, always in control and always coming out on top - with an article headed "Now Mourinho lands a verbal blow on Guardiola", though I see that even this has been changed. Let's hope, as you suggest Ric, that these are the first signs of a period of turbulence and chaos at OT which paralyses them for years. All "Mou" might need now is embroiling in another "gender issue".
 
Dave S said:
The one thing that amazes me is that the rags are allowing this creepy little twat to make their club look ridiculous. It's' not Manchester United anymore it's Mourinho United. And now he's got big nose coming out calling Pep names. It' all so fucking childish it's laughable.
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Your contention that Ibrahimović is 'childish' might carry a little more force if you didn't refer to him as 'big nose' ;-)
 
BluessinceHydeRoad said:
The only thing that worries me about Mourinho's difficulties is that I can remember clearly the mounting difficulties of another obnoxious *!$** thirty years ago and United's response was to throw more and more money at the problem each year, as the fury of their fans - funnily enough only about 35000 then - grew, until seven years later the manager got it right. My real hope and belief is that it is a completely different world now and the shareholders won't be allowed to bale Mourinho out like they did the old bacon faced one, but the football his teams played was just as boring as the stuff Mou's lot dish up. Hopefully Mourinho is genuinely past his sell-by date as a coach and tactician and that his accusations that City players dive and commit tactical fouls (didn't they used to be known as "professional" fouls? - and no English side ever stooped to those depths!) along with his assertion that celebrating a win is lacking respect, were simple preparations for dealing with the defeat he knew to be inevitable because he has no answer to this City team. It isn't working with the United fans I know. They all find him an embarrassment, hate the football served up and admit freely to their admiration of Pe p. Many in the media seem to have reached a tipping point on Sunday, but the Mail is still having a go at perpetuating this image of Mourinho as the smooth operator, always in control and always coming out on top - with an article headed "Now Mourinho lands a verbal blow on Guardiola", though I see that even this has been changed. Let's hope, as you suggest Ric, that these are the first signs of a period of turbulence and chaos at OT which paralyses them for years. All "Mou" might need now is embroiling in another "gender issue".
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These aren't the first signs. Their demise started about 6 years ago but it's only now that the penny is dropping in some quarters.

They will be in our slipstream for much longer now we've finally got our act together.
 
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