Liverpool (A) Post Match Thread.

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Does it matter? This is episode 23 of a 38 episode series. All anyone cares about is the ending!

Who were the EFL SF losers last year? Anyone give a shit?
How about the Final losers? Anyone give a shit?
Who won the trophy and got a medal and a pot to list on their history timeline? Oh yeah, people will remember that!

Context is everything.
In the context of this season, what happens in the next run of 3-4 games is more important than this one result, and the the fact that the result simply moved one team from 18pts behind with 16 games to play to 15pts behind (and worse GD) with 15 games to play.

Which team would you rather be: City or Liverpool?
It matters if we have to put up with our resident flappers for weeks who can't see through the media bullshit or doomsday prophecies of Liverpool catching up to us this season or next they are miles off in both respects regardless of today's game.
 
Must say, I've watched it again on spn, there is a nudge on stones's back but his positioning is all wrong just before the nudge. He should have done better. Football has never been reffed according to the laws of the game 100% as its down to interpretation in some scenarios. I love stones but I do fault him but won't slate him for it. If a sergio goal is disallowed for such a small nudge would you be screaming foul?

You're the second person who makes no sense. Him being out of position doesn't make it not a foul. Sound like them idiots when they blamed Ederson for getting kicked in the head "he shouldn't be that far out" he was out of position yes he was fouled yes
 
That was more than a little disappointing.

Firstly for the umpteenth year we give them an early goal, get the crowd going and looked a little lost for a while. We get a goal out of nothing and get to have time and we all hope we regroup. Instead more of the error strewn passing and very little up front.

We concede a bad goal, then another and almost an instant fourth before we get punished for Ederson’s first big mistake. Up to that point we were a pale shadow of ourselves.

To credit the players we kept going but the hole we’d dug for ourselves was too deep.

Have to credit De Bruyne and Sane for keeping going. Sterling, Aguero, Stones, Fernandinho and Otamendi were poor in different ways. Gundogan was pretty anonymous until we were 4-1 down.

The most disappointing thing for me was how much we lost our heads after Firmino’s goal, no one took control of the game until it was too late.
 
We aren't entitled to win every game. The better side won today.
Of course you've a right to be pissed off. I also have a right to tell you give your fanny a wipe.

How amazing we have been this season doesn't justify today. The end result will be us celebrating hopefully but that doesn't make today ok. That's a big game we failed to turn up in.
 
Fuckin gutted. 5 crazy minutes fucked the match for us, but well played LFC. They played the right way & if we had to lose, I'd have preferred it to be in a match like today's rather than with a whimper against Palace et al...

Guardiola has been brilliant for us, but isn't beyond criticism if deserved. I know David Silva is going through a tough personal time in his life, but surely if he was fit enough to be on the bench, he was fit enough to start?

For all his undoubted ability, Gundogan is no Silva & went missing for huge parts of the game today. I've said all along that the 2 players who truly make us tick are Fernandinho & David Silva. One is 31 & the other 33.

Fuck knows how the hell we're gonna replace those two, because with Silva missing & Fernandinho having an average day, today we saw the result. It's been coming, but hopefully now we can press the reset button & kick on for the rest of the season.

The only winner today was Moureen. He's be having it with City, Chelsea & Arsenal, & we've all gained a point between us this weekend. Hopefully now, our doubting fans will realise why we need reinforcements.
David's 32nd birthday was 8 January. No raw pace to lose, but will always be quicker than others with the ball at his feet in tight situations.
 
Presumably because that was Pep being more pragmatic in a big game, knowing/hoping Gundogan would be a better defender than Bernardo is, and I'd agree with that assessment, but Gundogan didn't have a great game until the 83rd minute, and he made it far harder for Fernandhino, who was also below his best.
Gundogan has rarely been on it since he came back from injury, & today wasn't the day to put his pedestrian arse in the melting pot of Klanfield.

I still want someone to explain the sense of David Silva being on the bench, instead of being on the pitch...
 
Chicago Blue your post it spot on, the main thing is we lift it in the end, today we lost by poor defence errors, at some stage we loose and today was it, we move on and get back to winning ways
 
Seriously? You are going to pick THIS ONE GAME as the measure of his performances. If so, who starts instead of Aguero? Gundogan? Danilo? Stones? Ederson?!!!

It was a bad day at the office against one of the most aggressive, attacking teams in Europe. They got lucky with the no call on goal 2, goal 3 was defensive stupidity followed by a top corner worldie, and goal 4 was a mistake by Ederson followed by a cool finish. We played average at best.

It’s going to be a looooong season for you if that performance leaves you scrambling for immediate changes. We are going to play the same system next game and the one after that, and after that....If Pep didn’t change last season, what on earth would make him change this season?

More than one player was a step off the pace and had a poor first or last touch. Shit happens!

Oh, and we lost our first game of the season 4-3 away to a top team that is on their best run of the season and getting injured (well rested!) players back after playing 10 games in a month with the same 15 players. Call the police, that must be a crime! Sheesh!
Sterling has had a great season for us but at Klanfield he is rubbish. He has been phycologically tortured by the press for leaving Klanfiekd and he has done wonders to turn it around but at Klanfield he plays crap. 3 times now and he's been gash on all 3 occasions. I wouldn't even start him next time.
I'd love to know why but only Sterling can have an opinion on this. To beat it I think he needs to put the afterburners on and drive up the wing more frequently than he does but Pep doesn't like him doing that for some reason.
 
How amazing we have been this season doesn't justify today. The end result will be us celebrating hopefully but that doesn't make today ok. That's a big game we failed to turn up in.

Hold on. We bossed possession. Scored three goals. Had them bricking it. We turned up alright. Just had a few too many brain farts, they were on it and capitalised. Simple. We don't have 10 mental minutes we win.
 
It was a clear foul on stones he’s an idiot for not going down. Sadly, you don’t get decisions for staying on your feet. It’s right what they said about our defence all season, it’s an accident waiting to happen and if our midfield wasn’t so good they’d be cocking up every game.
 
With David on the pitch we're a better team - sets the tempo, tenacious, keeps the ball until he sees a pass..... usually through small gaps for Sane, Sterling, Sergio to run onto. Genius. Different game. Can't say we would have won, but things certainly different with him on the pitch.
I don't think midfield was the problem we had 64% possession 68% in the final 3rd... KDB put some great crosses in but we weren't seeing the normal movement up top, Aguero struggled to get in front of his man, Sterling and Sané didn't seem to get in the box to give KDB something to aim for either.
 
We weren't poor/diabolical/shite today, just a bit below par, against a good side, at their best.

We really have been spoiled.
Yes we have been spoiled and hopefully a lot more to come, but our involvement in their goals was appalling to say the least. It can't be dressed up any other way. F&!*ing terrible goals for a top team to give away.
 
David's 32nd birthday was 8 January. No raw pace to lose, but will always be quicker than others with the ball at his feet in tight situations.
David Silva is a truly special player who I wish we could clone.

I was watching a recent match with my son who was eulogising about KDB. I told him to watch carefully who regularly supplied the balls to KDB in dangerous positions where he can do damage.

The influence Silva has on our play cannot stressed enough. It comes as no surprise that we've been looking decidedly off colour, since his u fortunate personal problems surfaced...
 
I still want someone to explain the sense of David Silva being on the bench, instead of being on the pitch...
He's been ill, on top of the other issue with his child. I suspect he'd have been brought on at 2-1 to help us win the game, but we went from 2-1 to 4-1 quickly, and that point it probably looked pointless. Apparently he didn't come on on the pitch for the pre match warm up, so maybe he had a relapse of the illness ?

I don't think, given the current situation, that David's commitment needs questioning.
 
Hold on. We bossed possession. Scored three goals. Had them bricking it. We turned up alright. Just had a few too many brain farts, they were on it and capitalised. Simple. We don't have 10 mental minutes we win.

We turned up? We was off the pace from the off going a goal down early on whilst at one point being 4-1 down. Had them bricking it? We had one offside chance at 4-3. That performance is nowhere near the level we've consistently produced. Of course we won't every week but that doesn't mean we can't point out when we play poorly. The errors were Sunday league style.
 
It was a clear foul on stones he’s an idiot for not going down. Sadly, you don’t get decisions for staying on your feet. It’s right what they said about our defence all season, it’s an accident waiting to happen and if our midfield wasn’t so good they’d be cocking up every game.

haven't we got one of the best defensive records in the league ? yes we concede or make the odd mistake, but you are severely over exaggerating how bad we apparently are.

with the way we pass out of the back we are bound to make errors at times. that just the type of football we play.
 

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