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They haven't got a clue either.

But they think it's now swung back to us again.

And they admit United would pay the most money if need be.
 
That is two posters though saying similar things.
aguerrrroooooooooooo said:
Anybody who takes anything itk's say too seriously are setting themselves up for disappointment. I appreciate them sharing their knowledge but ultimately things change so quickly
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Of course, I know that and I thought it was as dead as a dodo too. And likely still is. Given what Tolmie has posted (which I trust) and Sam Lee (who gets our brief).

But a few hints of a possible movement in this from various places over the last hour or two now so you never know.

Especially with the report of a discussion at City when they seemed last night to have walked away. And no sign of anything moving forward imminently elsewhere.

Plus hints of slight hesitation from media supporting United - City trying to use money to stop us, is he the right player etc

Maybe they cannot afford trackers for medicals on the cafe but I expected he would be there today and done for the match tonight to hit City when we are slightly down for the first time in months ?
 
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citizens_1976 said:
PSG have been fleeced for Neymar and Mbappe, if I was their fans I would rather be fleeced than not be fleeced given the quality of players they acquired.
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And you cannot see a difference between those two, young, world beaters and a 29 year old squad player?
 
aguerrrroooooooooooo said:
Anybody who takes anything itk's say too seriously are setting themselves up for disappointment. I appreciate them sharing their knowledge but ultimately things change so quickly
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If you think about it all that has happened is United have made an offer, it has been accepted and his agent has probably agreed terms on his behalf. People have misread this as though he has signed.

Has Sanchez signed for United though, no.

He is fully within his right to wait and keep his options open which I hope is what is happening.

There are 15 days left and the longer it goes on the more desperate Arsenal will get to accept and offload him which I also reckon and hope is what city are doing

The one thing I noticed from the weekend is Mourinho said they were fighting to sign him, why would they need to fight if they were the only ones being considered?
 
domalino said:
6 months later and it's apparent they got fleeced for neither.

God I wish we could go back and pay Monaco's asking price for Mbappe.
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Not sure they were not screwed. 14 goals in 22 appearances sounds good. However, playing in a league where over half the teams would struggle to get above 12th place in the Championship. He is still young so we should wait a couple of years before deciding one way or another.
 
oakiecokie said:
I was talking about agents fleecing everyone.Perhaps I didn`t phrase it well enough.
Pisses me off no end,that Clubs have to pay agents.It should be the player who forks out.
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Agents are the biggest slimeballs in football and the most annoying part is, they play a massive role in getting the best deal for their client and helping that player decide where they want to go.

Reminds me of a Broker going into the insurance market and brokering the best deal for their client. Both Brokers and agents get commission for the work they do, but if a club is filling the agents pocket with millions, you can bet your bottom dollar the agent has every persuasive trick in the book to convince that player to sign for the club who is handing the chequebook out, even if its not to the best interest of their client in football terms.

This is why there should be a lot more financial advisors around football clubs, to give expert advice on how young players should handle their money. The greed of football is what ruins a lot of young players careers and completely demotivates them on the field.
 
Literally no one had a clue a what is going on considering City are meeting today’s with the likelihood’s being the club is going to pull the plug on Sanchez. But to reiterate, no one knows anything yet unless you are in that meeting today.
 
It may be a standoff between agent and Sanchez. They want different things. Have agreed to give it a few days to see if the gap narrows between offers and a compromise acceptable to both appears.

I am fairly sure when he knows City are out Sanchez will decide.

Whether to go to United or wait until Summer and have his pick of huge deals.

Pure guess.
 
Blue Llama said:
Not sure they were not screwed. 14 goals in 22 appearances sounds good. However, playing in a league where over half the teams would struggle to get above 12th place in the Championship. He is still young so we should wait a couple of years before deciding one way or another.
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Mbappe is absolutely superb. He will be seen as an absolute bargain in a few seasons time.
 
Lesson for parents on how not to spoil kids -- if you promise them more toys, they keep crying.

Quote from Rag Cafe when seeing that Pep has been promised an alternative if we don't get Sanchez.

Hahahahaha.
 
The only person that I would believe if they said we signed him is @MCRJON and he has not posted in like 8 months.

Apart from that I don't believe anything unless it is announced on the website.
 
Except he was always going to have a budget in the Summer and a striker to replace Aguero is inevitable in the next couple of windows alongside other necessities.

So hardly a promise Pep would have asked for or been surprised by. It was just paper talk trying to write an agenda.

All teams get transfer budgets each window. And we spend what we can pay for only.

It was just pointing out that we COULD blow that kind of money now if we wanted to do so but consider that we have the UNITED team not United and a sensible structure that rewards success. So what we do is based on strategy and harmony not desperation and panic.

Quite rightly too.

United cannot afford principles at present.

They are the team that need Sanchez to save their season.

In case you hadn't noticed our season is going okay.
 
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I wonder genuinely who would be an alternative to Sanchez because I can';t think of many forwards good enough to play for us. Any that are will most likely be heavily in demand and very expensive or well set up at top level clubs.
 
citizens_1976 said:
Agents are the biggest slimeballs in football and the most annoying part is, they play a massive role in getting the best deal for their client and helping that player decide where they want to go.

Reminds me of a Broker going into the insurance market and brokering the best deal for their client. Both Brokers and agents get commission for the work they do, but if a club is filling the agents pocket with millions, you can bet your bottom dollar the agent has every persuasive trick in the book to convince that player to sign for the club who is handing the chequebook out, even if its not to the best interest of their client in football terms.

This is why there should be a lot more financial advisors around football clubs, to give expert advice on how young players should handle their money. The greed of football is what ruins a lot of young players careers and completely demotivates them on the field.
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There is a really simple solution - a player's agent should be paid by the player, out of the players money, on a %age basis. Or, there should be a standardised formula (most likely a standardised %age). Pretty much any other system creates a conflict of interest. It's almost unheard of in any other walk of life for the agent of the 'talent' to be paid for by the hirer of the talent, pretty much whatever figure the agent plucks out of the air

The agent in this instance can name almost any figure they want. Let's say £10M. If United say yes and we say no, the agent will as you say do everything they can to force a move to United. Is the player even made aware ? There is insufficient regulation to be sure. THe system is geared to the benefit of agents, to the detriment of all the other parties. The system is inherently wrong and broken but the agents seem to hold too much power for the clubs to do anything about it.

The way it should work, in an example like this where a low transfer fee & high wages are paid because there isn't much left on the contract, is that there is a large signing on fee and the agent takes a percentage of that. If that was the case, which it would be in any other industry, the agent would be working on behalf of his client (the player) to get him the best deal possible which in turn would him the most as agent.

It's not rocket science. But there are no real signs of any major shifts in stance looking likely

What you would like to see, if this is one of the main stumbling blocks with Sanchez, is he turns round to his agent and say you will get whatever you get from the club I decide I'm going to. But does he even legally, have that power ? Or can the agent stand there and say if city dont pay me, the agent, what United will, I won't sanction the move ?
 
pavelsrnicek said:
I wonder genuinely who would be an alternative to Sanchez because I can';t think of many forwards good enough to play for us. Any that are will most likely be heavily in demand and very expensive or well set up at top level clubs.
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Griezmann is the first name that comes up. Has a release clause of a 100 in the summer as well.
 
bellsouth said:
England can't have more than 5 places in CL so if us and Arse won respective European comps then whoever finishes 4th misses out, which is why I'd like them to get 4th and think they've done enough only to see it snatched from them later :)
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Thanks for clarification
 
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