City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

Lancet Fluke said:
Well this latest incarnation will be interesting because personally I wouldn't have thought it would particularly suit the likes of united and Arsenal who were so obviously leading players behind the last load of bollocks. So what will UEFA do if they have united and Arsenal not happy but the likes of Bayern and Barca pushing for this? Maybe UEFA need to just say that it's not their job to bring in arbitrary financial hoops that clubs need to jump through, scrap FFP and just do their job of running their fucking tournaments. If some clubs don't like that, they can take their ball and play between themselves. Personally, even if some aspects of FFP suit us, I would love our club to take this to court properly and blow the whole thing apart, we should have done it years ago as a matter of principle to teach ****s like gill a lesson.
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It's a weird one this
If it's UEFA's tournament and they invite clubs to play, then surely they can decide who they invite and a club could decline
Are clubs affiliated to UEFA or just to their country's FA?
Is it the FA who are affiliated to UEFA and therefor the clubs are?
Why does a club have to abide by what UEFA dictates?
If a club finished in a normal qualifying place in their domestic league and were not invited to play in UEFA's competition, can the club challenge it?
 
CC1 said:
I’m not an expert but haven’t these deals been done by these “elite” clubs now so that they avoid the new rules - because they can’t be backdated. Therefore only transfers from the date the rules come in will count. It just means future transfers will have to take account of the maximum net transfer of 100m. All transfers fees could potentially drop but it will mean players will be cheaper.

I suspect the rags were given the heads up some time ago and thus the Sanchez deal was approved and rushed through.
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Yes, but what I mean is that due to the new potential rule coming in, players values are going to drop significantly.

Its like buying a house at the height of the Property boom just before the crash.
 
Graceyboy said:
Yes, but what I mean is that due to the new potential rule coming in, players values are going to drop significantly.

Its like buying a house at the height of the Property boom just before the crash.
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Guess so. Pogba & Neymar transfers doomed??
 
So have city bought laporte and set up other deals knowing this is coming in during the summer so putting us in a strong position with a potential first 11 made up of players under 26 ? Vs utd going after established players aka over 28 and having to do another rebuild in 2-3 years
 
Neville Kneville said:
Pogba would be worth less than Utd paid for him, irrespective of any new rules.
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Neville Kneville said:
Pogba would be worth less than Utd paid for him, irrespective of any new rules.
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Any rag with a brain cell would know that Pogba isn't up to what they paid for him. He turns up when its Stoke and the rest of the shite and when they play anybody half decent he goes missing just like last nigh its another game of Where's Wally in terms of his performance. Whether or not Pep could have got him playing I think that we dodged one there.
 
Could we see a similar split to what happened in rugby between League and union?
If the "big" clubs threaten UEFA, tell them to do one, & ban those that play under the "new" format from playing association football for a set period? (Cricket and Kerry Packer type scenario)
 
Mike D said:
Any rag with a brain cell would know that Pogba isn't up to what they paid for him. He turns up when its Stoke and the rest of the shite and when they play anybody half decent he goes missing just like last nigh its another game of Where's Wally in terms of his performance. Whether or not Pep could have got him playing I think that we dodged one there.
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That's a good point Pep could improve his game but that looks like a mentality issue, I think Pep can work on that too to an extent with the younger players but past a certain age it's much harder to change some just have it and some don't.
 

I've just seen this tweet from the other day, expect rags to recycle it as it makes us look really bad(probably his real objective). So correct me if I'm wrong but are we looking at some sort of league points against transfer balance(in-goings and out-goings) graph since 2008? Isn't that useless for a club who's happy to break even while they rise to the top rather than an owner who milks profits first chance he/she gets? We're not a selling club.

Gareth‏ @Pebs10 Jan 30 > Replying to @jburnmurdoch
How are City still within the financial fair play rules?

John Burn-Murdoch‏Verified account @jburnmurdoch Jan 30
Huge revenues. As is the case with other clubs backed by billionnaires, investors are careful to make sure funds end up in places that can be counted on balance sheet as legit operating revenue, and therefore offset huge outlay on playing/coaching staff when it comes to FFP.
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He claims no bias but even if the "since 2008" angle wasn't enough this explanation gives him away for me, is having the highest broadcasting income not a good enough reason(knock on effect) that our revenue from sponsors and elsewhere is growing? Instead he makes vague claims that he cannot begin to back up like it's nothing.
 
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so adjusted for magical inflation, we've somehow spent 1.5bn Euros in 10 years, whilst the rags, who've just committed to spending £180m on one player without a transfer fee, and spent £323m just on Pogba, Lukaku, Di Maria, Martial and Mata, somehow spend less than a billion. Lolz.
 
BJL_City said:
so adjusted for magical inflation, we've somehow spent 1.5bn Euros in 10 years, whilst the rags, who've just committed to spending £180m on one player without a transfer fee, and spent £323m just on Pogba, Lukaku, Di Maria, Martial and Mata, somehow spend less than a billion. Lolz.
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Won't stop them recycling it even if they don't understand it, you know what the rags are like.

What makes me laugh is all these fans of clubs moaning about prices of players while City are yet to break the £60m mark on a single transfer as Pep rightly pointed out yet it's our fault Utd spent £100m+ overall on Pogba, £90m with add-ons on Lukaku and Liverpool spent £75m on a CB? I also have a sneaking suspicion Arsenal tried as hard as they could to keep Aubameyang's fee down near Laporte's release clause for fear of not having room to talk anymore.
 
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I think it would look a bit different if it was the last 6 or 7 years (Utd won in 2009 with 90 pts, and City only got 50 that season).
Does he provide an indication of how the inflation has been applied?
 
MillionMilesAway said:
I think it would look a bit different if it was the last 6 or 7 years (Utd won in 2009 with 90 pts, and City only got 50 that season).
Does he provide an indication of how the inflation has been applied?
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Exactly, if it's not aimed at City as he claims, then why since 2008? A more telling comparison would be the first 5 years since 2008 vs the last 5 years as the first 5 were the trickiest(catching up) and the last 5 shows how far we've come. He's not really interested in where we are heading though.

He does explain the inflation yes:

Inflation calculated from annual changes in total revenues of 20 richest clubs per Deloitte Money League. Why? It tracks rise in fees very well, but is less volatile / sensitive to outliers like Neymar
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