United thread 2017/18

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I think they are in a real pickle.

If they keep Mourinho the players the sign will not reach their potential and the style will be awful...but they'll slog out results just like they did this year and probably will do better than most if not all of Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal.

If they get a new man (or woman) the football could be much more positive and there could be a better chance of new signings settling in well. But what's the likelihood that even then they'll do better than with Mourinho? It's very risky.

I think they have to stick with Mourinho until the fans can't take no more. Then if it goes tits up the fans can be blamed for it and it it turns out great if was the owners great foresight.

I'm just enjoying the show. :-)
 
TonyM said:
Seriously though, it would have been an amazing story if they had tracked both teams from the start of the season.
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That documentary could turn out to be the best PR this club has ever had, apart from the time Trevor Francis did that radio advert encouraging people to come to Maine Road and then got sent of for head butting in the next home game.
 
domalino said:
Anyone who has watched them could see this result coming, because it's exactly the way they've been playing, against Liverpool and Crystal Palace, and Newcastle the other week and even the Chelsea game they won.

This is why I (and others) said they were getting worse, because they are. They are sitting deeper, scoring fewer goals and not keeping clean sheets any more. The fact that Palace shit the bed and Liverpool gifted them goals didn't mean United played well, it covered up the fact they were poor. Even poor sides like Newcastle can get results against them if they just manage to not make a huge error defensively over 90 minutes.

At the beginning of the season, they were relatively compact and broke forward in numbers. Now Mourinho has fallen out with Pogba because he wasn't focusing enough on defending, has dropped them 10 yards deeper and now has them just waiting for the opposition to make a mistake.

They are a worse team now than in November.
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You could argue it either way, that August-November period could be looked at differently. For me they over achieved if anything during that time, scoring goals but Swansea and Everton to name but two where they banged them in the last few minutes. I just think during a period where they've beat United and Liverpool it just seemed daft to say they are getting worse, the second they lose it is very easy then to use that as the argument. If they won you wouldn't have said oh hang on maybe they're not but mad how a defeat then somehow proves the point. Either way they aren't going forwards and improving which is the best thing about it all. Long may that continue.
 
paulchapo said:
They got carried away by last season when they got extremely lucky. Southampton battered them in the league cup final but lost and they won a Europa league that was the poorest I ever remember. That allowed them a back door entry into the champions league that they weren't ready for and didn't deserve.

It has been interesting to watch them since Ferguson retired, as a club but more importantly a fan base. The rags attract a certain type of person who supports them. Showy, boastful they are in it the reflected glory winning brings. Some of them have grown up knowing only success and trophies. This created the spoilt kid syndrome. Always being given everything they wanted and if the kid next door got a bigger toy then straight away they would be bought a bigger one still. They could then still be the main kid in the playground and all was well in their world. Ferguson's noisy neighbour's quote summed this mindset up perfectly.

The last few years their little world has imploded and like all spoilt kids getting a dose of reality the tantrums and sense of outrage are a joy to behold. As a consequence all their principles and bullshit myths are going out of the window in their desperate attempts to still be cool and relevant. Trophies they once sneered at as being below them are now called titles. Playing football the right way? Forget that, hoof it long so long as they win!! Anything to be known as winners, the top team, glory glory Man United!! Their pain is wonderful to see and long may it continue, at least as long as that despicable fucking banner hung at the swamp!
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Bravo lad, lovely stuff!
 
Mourinho is a fecking spoiler.

My rest of season predictions for the rags:

Beat Brighton Reserves who all of a sudden decide the PL is "More Important"

Get a bye to the final after drawing Wigan. Spurs go spursy in final and lose 3 or 4-0.

They turn up for the Derby and scrape 4th place on last day of the season.
 
paulchapo said:
Cheers. They have to suffer more, karma deems it so. I would like to see 10 trophy less years for starters, let's see how loyal their fan base is then.
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That's the annoying thing though they seem to scrape and fluke cups still whilst being this level. Winning a cup under LVG and last year. Wouldn't surprise me if they won the FA cup this year and it is lorded as a positive season. Arsenal won it last year, look at the state of them
 
I think we must be missing something here. We are obviously not seeing the real picture.

It was only quite recently that the rags board extended pegs contract & gave him a big pay rise so they must be well pleased. Or are they now into rewarding failure ?
 
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