United (H) Post Match Thread

I realise, it seems, that I'm in a minority, but all this 'winning the title against united' was something that never bothered me either way, in fact, I looked at the tv with a puzzled look when Neville etc were coming out with the lines "this'll really hurt their fans", it really didn't with me.
 
Two days on and still totally gutted , once in a lifetime fucking chance tossed away , didn’t give a fuck about Tuesday nights game before the derby and give even less of a fuck about it now . Forty plus years of following us up and down the country and Europe and don’t think I have ever felt more pissed off in my life in relation to watching us .
 
jimharri said:
Ah well; off to work now. This should be really fun, just like last thursday was.
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Thursday at work was really shit for me (car factory in Liverpool) today won't be too bad, Weds lets wait and see.
 
TheThirdDeano said:
I’m just gonna say it and people can come for me if they want but I worry about this team. The vast majority are young and/or haven’t won serious silverware yet and i think that’s why we’re seeing these collapses, they’re not sure how to handle the pressure or get over the last hurdle, hence all these missed chances. And let’s be honest, kompany and Otamendi have always had the capacity to drop a bollock.

Pep now has to earn his money by giving them the warriors spirit. Only then will we get to where we should be.
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it was earlier in the season that we were relishing the idea of having such a youthful team considering the shite the RDAHMeedya had printed and broadcast about 'the oldest team in the PL'. An unfortunate mix, but a deliciously promising one, is youth and artistry. We are where we are because of the creativity produced on the pitch, the number of chances created, the chances taken and the football doing the talking. There are games where the old cliché is to grind out a result. Youth and artistry are not in the market for grinding out results. Teams realise that no matter what we have achieved in a game, no matter what the score or how well we are playing, we can be 'got at' if the score, despite the chances created and clear evidence they have been played off the pitch, is within sniffing distance! More often than not it is our 'gifts' rather than the opposition's endeavours that contribute to a reverse. I saw a re-run of Smallthing's goal - head nearer the goal line when the ball was kicked, incidentally - but the lino on 323 side was dozing, as was his demeanour most of the game - but it looked like every City player was playing 'Statues'. Ederson must have thought in that second half he was the target on a funfair.

It's clear from what every player says that the squad have tremendous spirit and will work and run for each other, but we need a handful who are not gonna be 'nice' if something on the pitch has to be said!
 
carlosthejackal said:
Two days on and still totally gutted , once in a lifetime fucking chance tossed away , didn’t give a fuck about Tuesday nights game before the derby and give even less of a fuck about it now . Forty plus years of following us up and down the country and Europe and don’t think I have ever felt more pissed off in my life in relation to watching us .
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A lot of people keep saying it's a once in a lifetime opportunity...but in 2018 we've had the derby on match day 32, 2017 match day 33, 2016 match day 31, 2015 match day 32, 2013 matchday 31...

As long as they keep scheduling the second derby of the season in the last few games of the season, these situations will keep arising from time to time. It's not once in a lifetime at all.
 
bluebrother55 said:
Agree with almost everything there. Pep ballsed it up big time. Oh for a Joe Mercer in charge on saturday. He would have known what it meant to us.
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Big Mal would have spent the fifteen minutes telling them under no circumstances do the Stretford sewer Rags get anywhere near a sniff! And the instructions would have been adhered to. The players knew they couldn't have come off at the end had they not finished the job. But there again, we probably would have had a referee who had more than a passing acquaintance with the Laws of the Game and was determined to apply them fairly.
 
carlosthejackal said:
Two days on and still totally gutted , once in a lifetime fucking chance tossed away , didn’t give a fuck about Tuesday nights game before the derby and give even less of a fuck about it now . Forty plus years of following us up and down the country and Europe and don’t think I have ever felt more pissed off in my life in relation to watching us .
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Exactly the same. After all the shit and disappointment I've travelled to and sat through, the ups and Mariana Trenxh lows; this one has hit hard and unlike the others which disappear after a day - It's lingering and hitting harder.
 
What's pissing me off is United were absolutely wank. Even in the second when we were 3-2 down we should have comfortably won it as we were utterly dominant. Despite scoring so many goals we're still incredibly profligate infront of goal and defensively we crumble.

There's definitely a question mark about leadership. Nobody took responsibility when Pogba scored his first. Nobody identified the space in midfield.
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
Big Mal would have spent the fifteen minutes telling them under no circumstances do the Stretford sewer Rags get a sniff
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Mind you, he also said we'd scare Europe to death and promptly got knocked out in the first round by Fenebahce.

That was the game, aged 9, I learned never to take anything for granted with City. Some of our younger fans would do well to heed the lesson.
 
Hmm - our attackers are surely sitting uncomfortably after seeing this quote from Pep:


"Real Madrid and Barcelona are always successful because they have players up front who, when they have half-chances, score two goals.”


It’s odd I know, given the season we’re having, full of amazing team performances and some wonderful indivisual displays, but it’s these types of results (v. Liverpool and v. United) that removes the mask a little and shows that we’re still a good bit away from being a dependable, consistent and dominant side.


A dominant display on Tuesday is most definitely required to put some of the gloss back on.
 
come-on-barney said:
You know you are spot on. I could see Otamendi and Kompany bothered by the atmosphere when having simple defensive duties to contend with. Must have been going through their minds right at that time.
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And of course the bit before that, where Utd got hold of the ball & passed it around, with City not getting on top of them, unlike anything we saw in the entirity of the first half, had nothing to do with it.

And then did it again...
 
blue banks said:
Hmm - our attackers are surely sitting uncomfortably after seeing this quote from Pep:


"Real Madrid and Barcelona are always successful because they have players up front who, when they have half-chances, score two goals.”


It’s odd I know, given the season we’re having, full of amazing team performances and some wonderful indivisual displays, but it’s these types of results (v. Liverpool and v. United) that removes the mask a little and shows that we’re still a good bit away from being a dependable, consistent and dominant side.


A dominant display on Tuesday is most definitely required to put some of the gloss back on.
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This idea that we're the best PL team of all time has been over egged by the media and pundits. We're a great team, but have definitely shown signs of mental weakness at times.

That said, these last two results have had a remarkable set of decisions go against us. Could have been a very different feeling this morning.
 
domalino said:
A lot of people keep saying it's a once in a lifetime opportunity...but in 2018 we've had the derby on match day 32, 2017 match day 33, 2016 match day 31, 2015 match day 32, 2013 matchday 31...

As long as they keep scheduling the second derby of the season in the last few games of the season, these situations will keep arising from time to time. It's not once in a lifetime at all.
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When you look at his reasoning behind it, with examples from Utd's title years of how the title is often won away from home or when another team is playing, it probably is pretty unlikely that it will coinicide with the exact day that we play Utd tbf.
 
blue banks said:
Hmm - our attackers are surely sitting uncomfortably after seeing this quote from Pep:


"Real Madrid and Barcelona are always successful because they have players up front who, when they have half-chances, score two goals.”


It’s odd I know, given the season we’re having, full of amazing team performances and some wonderful indivisual displays, but it’s these types of results (v. Liverpool and v. United) that removes the mask a little and shows that we’re still a good bit away from being a dependable, consistent and dominant side.


A dominant display on Tuesday is most definitely required to put some of the gloss back on.
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I was thinking about this on the way into work. Barca has Villa and Messi, Bayern had Lewondowski and Muller. The only one we have in that class is Aguero

Teams would kill for the chances we get but we miss so many. Those two from Sterling that went over the bar were unbelievable for this level of football.

To the Neymar thread..............
 
TheRemainsOfTheDave said:
This idea that we're the best PL team of all time has been over egged by the media and pundits. We're a great team, but have definitely shown signs of mental weakness at times.

That said, these last two results have had a remarkable set of decisions go against us. Could have been a very different feeling this morning.
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Agree with you to some degree Remains.


However, I can’t see past the fact that it certainly wasn’t all down to officials’ decisions that we conceded 6 (very poor) goals over 2 games, and that’s what’s disappointing.


There were alot of indivdual errors (defensively and offensively) that one should have been resonably safe to assume had been eradicated from our team.


I know individual mistakes happen - that’s just humanity - but to witness many glaring ones over 2 games was quite something.
 
Blue Hefner said:
I was thinking about this on the way into work. Barca has Villa and Messi, Bayern had Lewondowski and Muller. The only one we have in that class is Aguero

Teams would kill for the chances we get but we miss so many. Those two from Sterling that went over the bar were unbelievable for this level of football.

To the Neymar thread..............
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I'd say Pep is crying out for a Lewandowski or a Muller right now.
 
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