United (H) Post Match Thread

We are the biggest scalps out there now, who would have thought that,tells me what we are doing is hurting every rag and scouser.
 
Embarrassing really. Cut them to bits first half. Pogba looked timid and who was that guy from Arsenal? Was he on pitch first half? Well, it will tell Pep that something needs to change for next season to put some guts into the side to match the finesse! Remember De jong? A bit of Nigel would be good. Fighting spirit counts for a lot.
Clap clap clap.
I've seen some tripe posted on here before but this is the winner.
Can't stop laughing at this one.
 
So when is Ashley Young’s hearing for a retrospective ban taking place?
That was a leg breaker if I ever saw one.
 
There's a small part of me that takes some comfort in knowing that "Typical City" haven't completely gone away
 
I'm still angry that we didn't seize the opportunity to clinch the title against United. To capitulate that way in the second half is unforgivable.

In the cold light of day though, seeing the way we ripped them apart in the first half, without 4/5 first team regulars, showed how far ahead of them we are. On any other day we would have gone in at least three goals up and it would've been game over. You have to credit United for showing the resilience to fight back, but nine times out of ten we would win that game comfortably. And that's without even mentioning the two penalties we should have been awarded. As said on Saturday, they won a minor battle but we're winning the war.

Fully agree with this. Reading some of the comments you would think utd battered us in the second half and actually deserved to win!!
We were our own worst enemy missing the chances we did.
If we had taken 1 or 2 more of the opportunities we had we would be talking about a huge win and as mentioned that does not include the penalties we should have had.
I read yesterday that Pogba ran the second half!! I must have missed that,admittedly he scored 2 but he didn't dominate the game at all.
Was it 3 attempts on target and 3 goals?
Pep has always said we are too wasteful in front of goal and proved again on Saturday.
 
It should be a positive that this defeat would normally allow United to read far too much into it, in terms of not needing as much improvement as their previous displays have suggested?

Mourinho refused to be anything but non-plussed, however, even so far as being 'nice' with regards his comments both beforehand and afterwards.

He knows better than anybody this was a freak result in the context of where the two teams currently stand and our second-string should have had the game out of sight before half-time.

Mourinho always has a motive, so it's either he's checked-out at United (would be a surprise), he's not getting his own way, or he's just trying to lull us into a false sense of security?

Thankfully, we also have someone in the other dugout who has seen it all before.

He had ample ammunition to vent with the Pogba comments on the eve of the game, yet he's hugging Vinny, he's all pally with Pep.

Coming off the back of the tunnel bust-up at United, the nature of their comeback win, it just seems all a little odd.
 
I've just read the article in which Pep is concerned that there is a fatal flaw in his system which could mean that he never wins the CL with City. The evidence is the three collapses this season on Saturday and the two matches at Anfield and previous failures at Bayern against Real and Barcelona in the CL semis. I can only assume that he is depressed after Saturday because 3 matches this season is a pretty slim sample; it ignores the performances at OT and the Etihad against all other "top" teams and the performance in Naples. The selection of two of Bayern's matches is even thinner. I think he is on stronger ground when he suggested that the problem "is both boxes". We created enough chances to win every derby until the next decade but we didn't take them and our defending in the second half was lamentable for at least two of the goals we conceded. For their first we had defenders doing little but play them onside, for the second Nico didn't attack the ball at all and let Pogba get a free header in and for the third we defended our high line but no-one followed Smalling back in. Schoolboy errors at a vital time in a massive match. The referee was not fit for such a match but as Pep said we can't do anything about the refereeing. But we can about the finishing and the defending.
 
It should be a positive that this defeat would normally allow United to read far too much into it, in terms of not needing as much improvement as their previous displays have suggested?

Mourinho refused to be anything but non-plussed, however, even so far as being 'nice' with regards his comments both beforehand and afterwards.

He knows better than anybody this was a freak result in the context of where the two teams currently stand and our second-string should have had the game out of sight before half-time.

Mourinho always has a motive, so it's either he's checked-out at United (would be a surprise), he's not getting his own way, or he's just trying to lull us into a false sense of security?

Thankfully, we also have someone in the other dugout who has seen it all before.

He had ample ammunition to vent with the Pogba comments on the eve of the game, yet he's hugging Vinny, he's all pally with Pep.

Coming off the back of the tunnel bust-up at United, the nature of their comeback win, it just seems all a little odd.
Mourinho has been very un-Mourinho like in recent weeks.

Personally I agree with you and think he knows full well Saturday was a freak result and his team are streets behind ours.

Could be argued he's sick of England and wants out, PSG and Mourinho are a match made in heaven, only a matter of time imo.
 
It should be a positive that this defeat would normally allow United to read far too much into it, in terms of not needing as much improvement as their previous displays have suggested?

Mourinho refused to be anything but non-plussed, however, even so far as being 'nice' with regards his comments both beforehand and afterwards.

He knows better than anybody this was a freak result in the context of where the two teams currently stand and our second-string should have had the game out of sight before half-time.

Mourinho always has a motive, so it's either he's checked-out at United (would be a surprise), he's not getting his own way, or he's just trying to lull us into a false sense of security?

Thankfully, we also have someone in the other dugout who has seen it all before.

He had ample ammunition to vent with the Pogba comments on the eve of the game, yet he's hugging Vinny, he's all pally with Pep.

Coming off the back of the tunnel bust-up at United, the nature of their comeback win, it just seems all a little odd.

If Saturday was a 100m race it would be the equivalent of someone taking a 30m lead before doing a hamstring and pulling up 5m short.

Someone else may have crossed the line first, but no one is under any doubts about who is better, and the difference in quality.

Mourinho can't brag about winning because the first half will have been one of the most humiliating moments of his life as a manager. He was standing there helpless as his side got cut apart at will, and even though he ended up on the winning side, the abyss that was the gulf in quality between us in that first half will have left an impression.

He knows they have got an almighty gap to close just to make next season competitive.
 
Did the three Wigan defeats since then not remind you typical city is still alive and kicking?

"Typical City" is a bloody myth, along with gypsy's curses and the magic that's supposed to reside in the badges of such as the rags' and the scousers' badges, the "United way" and Arsenal always being the "best passing team"in the PL. It's all superstitious nonsense which, if anything, serves to shut our crowd up when the team needs them most. Hands up all those who actually believe last Wednesday's result was because European success is in Liverpool's genes? Or Saturday's because "Mourinho always finds a way"? Or because it's typical City? Absolute rubbish which comforts rags and others in their belief that some malign force makes sure we'll never be any good.
 
Peps dying out for another clinical goal scorer, like someone said earlier a Muller or Lewandowski as well as Aguero.

We should've been 4 or 5 up by HT.

At elite level football in the biggest games we can't waste chances like Raheem did on Sat.

I've stayed off here after the game till now to think about this but the main thing we are lacking in is concentration, once one goes in, heads go down and more follow.

However it was a freak result, even PEG knows that, 9 times out of 10 we beat them comfortably.
 
"Typical City" is a bloody myth, along with gypsy's curses and the magic that's supposed to reside in the badges of such as the rags' and the scousers' badges, the "United way" and Arsenal always being the "best passing team"in the PL. It's all superstitious nonsense which, if anything, serves to shut our crowd up when the team needs them most. Hands up all those who actually believe last Wednesday's result was because European success is in Liverpool's genes? Or Saturday's because "Mourinho always finds a way"? Or because it's typical City? Absolute rubbish which comforts rags and others in their belief that some malign force makes sure we'll never be any good.

Typical city isn't a myth, its just a term to describe us doing things the hard way etc. We have the nack of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, we have a habit of doing things the difficult way. It works both ways and our successes come from the typical city tag too. Every team has a fuck up in them really but that's the way we describe it when it happens to us.
 
Pep made a huge mistake in not playing his strongest team, we would have won the league against that horrible club ( Herrera proves it ) we would not ever let them forget that, and tues would have been rocking. We go again, fck me I sounded like slippy G then.
 
It should be a positive that this defeat would normally allow United to read far too much into it, in terms of not needing as much improvement as their previous displays have suggested?

Mourinho refused to be anything but non-plussed, however, even so far as being 'nice' with regards his comments both beforehand and afterwards.

He knows better than anybody this was a freak result in the context of where the two teams currently stand and our second-string should have had the game out of sight before half-time.

Mourinho always has a motive, so it's either he's checked-out at United (would be a surprise), he's not getting his own way, or he's just trying to lull us into a false sense of security?

Thankfully, we also have someone in the other dugout who has seen it all before.

He had ample ammunition to vent with the Pogba comments on the eve of the game, yet he's hugging Vinny, he's all pally with Pep.

Coming off the back of the tunnel bust-up at United, the nature of their comeback win, it just seems all a little odd.

I definitely did find the subdued ‘celebrations' from José to be a surprise.


As you say, he had alot of ammunition to go with - normally he only needs a sniff ad he’s off.


Any thoughts on his reasoning behind this?
 
"Typical City" is a bloody myth, along with gypsy's curses and the magic that's supposed to reside in the badges of such as the rags' and the scousers' badges, the "United way" and Arsenal always being the "best passing team"in the PL. It's all superstitious nonsense which, if anything, serves to shut our crowd up when the team needs them most. Hands up all those who actually believe last Wednesday's result was because European success is in Liverpool's genes? Or Saturday's because "Mourinho always finds a way"? Or because it's typical City? Absolute rubbish which comforts rags and others in their belief that some malign force makes sure we'll never be any good.

Typical city would be losing that game and United becoming champions but the fact is they are 14 points short of being able to do so with 6 games to go.

The contrast between the two teams is massive and this was only the 2nd time we have lost in the league out of 32 attempts...

I was disappointed and I think we all were but prevously we won leagues on the last game of the season and not with 6 games to go....

There is nothing typical about city this year and it is only bad if you believe winning over United is more important than the fact we WILL be champions eventually.

All we have to do to the end of the season is not lose again and we will be champions... That is how far ahead we are.
 
Absolutely Hugh, I mean, Blue.


Obviously hard to speak for Pep but I’d imagine that’s where his biggest frustration lies - our profligacy.

If you read Pep Confidential the wasted chances also happened many times at Bayern as well. Also collapses as we saw against the dippers and rags happened to his sides before in the Champs league. Part of the system we play but as he says it’s successful most of the time. He has said he may need to re-evaluate.
 
It should be a positive that this defeat would normally allow United to read far too much into it, in terms of not needing as much improvement as their previous displays have suggested?

Mourinho refused to be anything but non-plussed, however, even so far as being 'nice' with regards his comments both beforehand and afterwards.

He knows better than anybody this was a freak result in the context of where the two teams currently stand and our second-string should have had the game out of sight before half-time.

Mourinho always has a motive, so it's either he's checked-out at United (would be a surprise), he's not getting his own way, or he's just trying to lull us into a false sense of security?

Thankfully, we also have someone in the other dugout who has seen it all before.

He had ample ammunition to vent with the Pogba comments on the eve of the game, yet he's hugging Vinny, he's all pally with Pep.

Coming off the back of the tunnel bust-up at United, the nature of their comeback win, it just seems all a little odd.

Good point did not look happy there at all. Reckon he would be off to PSG if he got the chance.
 

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