Referees/Officials 2017/18 performances

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Just seen this ,was looking for firminios push on de bruyne in the second leg which I thought was a second yellow,but found this with our friend Walton,discussing the league game at theirs,a t the time I thought it was it a foul but it didn't really get mentioned here,but it was in the u.s.a.
 
It's one of those that could go either way. I think a few people on here at the time were saying that Stones should have been stronger.
 
Just seen this ,was looking for firminios push on de bruyne in the second leg which I thought was a second yellow,but found this with our friend Walton,discussing the league game at theirs,a t the time I thought it was it a foul but it didn't really get mentioned here,but it was in the u.s.a.

Was this the first yellow card?
 
It was more of a push in the back than the one that Michael Oliver gave against Juventus in the semi-final, but obviously another case of referees applying different standards. Neither were fouls imo, both players need to be stronger.
 
If that's not a foul, and every player was allowed to do that in every challenge, then football would be a totally different game, and one that I'd be much less interested in watching and definitely much less interested in playing.

As they noted at the end of the video clip, it's decisions like this that lead to players going down too easily, because that would definitely have been given if he'd gone down.
 
As they noted at the end of the video clip, it's decisions like this that lead to players going down too easily, because that would definitely have been given if he'd gone down.
Don't be silly.

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Definite foul for me, Stones misreading the ball is irrelevant, he was in front of Firminos path to the ball at every stage, therefore it wasn't a coming together. It also wasn't shoulder to shoulder it was an out stretched arm that caused Stones to stumble and gave him a clear run at the ball he would otherwise not have gotten, thus an unfair advantage. Can't see how anyone can begin to claim otherwise, would have been a penalty if a player gets that from a defender through on goal, should be the same for a defender no matter how strong we expect them to be.

What gets me is the cheeky dippers who all reckoned it wasn't tried to say Raheem fouled VVD for our opener in the CL home leg, which was an unavoidable coming together caused by VVD trying to keep a ball he'd overrun in play... you couldn't make it up.
 
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Does anyone really give a fuck anymore?
I do, it was the start of that nightmare 9mins when our players lost their heads for the first time in the whole season. Although you could argue that loss might have prevented us getting complacent/overconfident... I think this team plays better the more fearless they are.
 
I do, it was the start of that nightmare 9mins when our players lost their heads for the first time in the whole season. Although you could argue that loss might have prevented us getting complacent/overconfident... I think this team plays better the more fearless they are.

I was pissed off at the time but it had no effect. We came back strong and the rest is history!
 
Whoever doesn’t think that’s a foul needs to get their eyes tested. From the angle firmino came, the only way he could get the ball was to barge stones in the back and thaya exactly what he did.
 
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