By this logic none of us have the right to critisize anyone at the club. As fans we have the right to critisize things we find concerning in our club even if we couldn't do a better job. If we follow your logic then no one should ever complain when we play badly because we wouldn't have done a better job.
Baffling mate!He's been told this multiple times but seems to deliberately ignore it, draw your own conclusions.
He went for the money, which is probably the very same thing I would have done depending on the deal being offered.I get that and that's a respectable stance and ofcourse the Pep effect is great for us and so many players want to come. But we can't let our selves get too arrogant, players will want to play for us sure but they will also always be open to other moves. We aren't entitled to anyone a player will want to move to us but another club can also come in and convince him.
That's why it's best to try to wrap deals up quickly to minimize that risk in my view.
in my view Sanchez on top of earning more money probably felt more wanted by the rags. he sees us telling him to wait till the summer because we won't pay the fee and sees them paying the fee and offering him even more than us. that probably made him feel that they value him more than we do and made him switch sides.
You are missing the main point & the one which has helped get us 100 points.
We only want players who want us.
So if Jorginho or anyone, doesn't want to hang around, or is tempted by more money, he, like Sanchez, Pogba, anyone, can just fuck off.
The thing is we Arsenal would've accepted just money in January which was reported around 25m we weren't willing to pay it and eventually United signed him by offering a player of similar value and a replacement. We could've signed him around the start of the window for 25m and be done with it instead we gambled and it back fired.You really don't seem to understand how complex transfers are.
To use your, seemingly, favourite example of sanchez; arsenal *needed* a replacement, this was january and they were scrapping for results desperately. We tried to offer just money but they needed to secure a replacement. This has nothing to do with Txiki or anyone. Then whilst arsenal were fucking around united offered them money plus Michael Terrapin which suited them down to the ground and then they offered Sanchez crazy wages and he is now wasting the twilight of his career at a team devoid of happines.
But what you fail to grasp is at none of this point was it our fault. We have to wait till the club is ready to sell. No matter how much money we have/offer.
I get that and that's a respectable stance and ofcourse the Pep effect is great for us and so many players want to come. But we can't let our selves get too arrogant, players will want to play for us sure but they will also always be open to other moves. We aren't entitled to anyone a player will want to move to us but another club can also come in and convince him.
That's why it's best to try to wrap deals up quickly to minimize that risk in my view.
And I feel sure that our negotiating team try to achieve that aim whenever possible , with Bernardo Silva being a perfect example .
However, players , agents and selling clubs are no doubt trying to screw the maximum out of a transfer, thus delaying r the process.
But if those negotiations become unacceptable to City, we have proved that we will walk away leaving the player for another club as with Sanchez , who I believe that the rags moved onto as a " dick waving " gesture ( as with most of their transfers ) , because they can't compete with us on a football level at this moment in time.
I get that and that's a respectable stance and ofcourse the Pep effect is great for us and so many players want to come. But we can't let our selves get too arrogant, players will want to play for us sure but they will also always be open to other moves. We aren't entitled to anyone a player will want to move to us but another club can also come in and convince him.
That's why it's best to try to wrap deals up quickly to minimize that risk in my view.
in my view Sanchez on top of earning more money probably felt more wanted by the rags. he sees us telling him to wait till the summer because we won't pay the fee and sees them paying the fee and offering him even more than us. that probably made him feel that they value him more than we do and made him switch sides.
But you probably know fuck all about the workings of a transfer deal , and yet are willing to tell the professionals how to conduct such business , is the point I am making .
That is my opinion - just like yours .
This has been discussed many times on here.The thing is we Arsenal would've accepted just money in January which was reported around 25m we weren't willing to pay it and eventually United signed him by offering a player of similar value and a replacement. We could've signed him around the start of the window for 25m and be done with it instead we gambled and it back fired.
I agree with u in that we had a value for him. But Utd values him more which is what made him switch in my view. I agree that it's good business not to have him on 400k a week but in my view we should've wrapped it up before they even had the chance. 20m for A player like him is a good price.
When did I say he was desperate to join us specifically he wanted city no doubt about it but we told him to wait a bit he preferred not to got a better offer and went elsewhere could have been avoided if we moved in January and payed Arsenal the money.Wrong on so many ASSUMPTIONS Sanchez took the money option. Stop thinking that he was desperate to come to us. He was just desperate to leave Arsenal - & the rags offer. was obscene
when arsenal asked for 25m in January when Alexis still wanted us. We didn't want to pay it and told him to wait.At what point "did we have a chance"
The thing is we Arsenal would've accepted just money in January which was reported around 25m we weren't willing to pay it and eventually United signed him by offering a player of similar value and a replacement. We could've signed him around the start of the window for 25m and be done with it instead we gambled and it back fired.
So what you are saying is Napoli according to the papers wanted 60 million. If we had agreed to that, Napolis chairman would of asked for 75 million. Do we then agree to the 75 so they can push it up to 90 million. Look at what Leicester were trying to get for Mahrez.none of us have a clue on the negotiation process or the team talks and game tactics or what goes on in the dressing room. But we judge based on what we see and from what I've seen we do tend to let some negotiations drag on when it feels like we don't need to and sometimes it comes back to bite us. Alves was done and dusted but we let him go on holiday giving plenty of time for another club to sign him which happened. We didn't manage to wrap up Alexis in January and instead told him to wait till the summer giving plenty of clubs time To approach him and sign him which again happened. we've known The fee Napoli want for Jorginho since we wanted him but spent two months trying to get it down only to pay a little less anyways. We spent weeks trying to get Stones and Sterling fee lower only to pay it anyways. Now of course I don't know all the intricate details of negotiations but from the limited info we get as fans I draw my conclusions just as any other fan would. I'm not saying we need to sign everyone in the first week just would be great to see us wrap up these guys faster when we can instead of letting the risk happen that another club can hijack the deal.
Again exactly just like any other fan would, no fan knows what Pep tells his players in the dressing room before a game but if we play bad we have the right to criticize. as fans are info is limited but that doesn't mean that we can't still criticize based on what we because we want to see our beloved club get better. if we can't critisize or comment on anything unless we have the absolute facts there wouldn't be much to talk about.
When did I say he was desperate to join us specifically he wanted city no doubt about it but we told him to wait a bit he preferred not to got a better offer and went elsewhere could have been avoided if we moved in January and payed Arsenal the money.
when arsenal asked for 25m in January when Alexis still wanted us. We didn't want to pay it and told him to wait.
many reports from reliable guys said it not me city wanted him in January but didn't want to pay the fee Arsenal wantedYou know that for sure do you?
And Arsenal were willing were they?
Arsenal needed a player in and were not allowing their star player to leave mid season without that.
When did I say he was desperate to join us specifically he wanted city no doubt about it but we told him to wait a bit he preferred not to got a better offer and went elsewhere could have been avoided if we moved in January and payed Arsenal the money.
when arsenal asked for 25m in January when Alexis still wanted us. We didn't want to pay it and told him to wait.
When did I say he was desperate to join us specifically he wanted city no doubt about it but we told him to wait a bit he preferred not to got a better offer and went elsewhere could have been avoided if we moved in January and payed Arsenal the money.