Liverpool (A) Post Match Thread

ChicagoBlue said:
Penalties, in order. Get it sorted, Pep!!!

Sergio
KDB
Silva
Bernardo
Jesus

If none of them are playing, I doubt we would ever get close enough to goal to get a penalty!
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Gundogan is our best penalty taker. He's been excellent on that score on the couple he has taken for us and had the balls to convert in a UCL final for Dortmund. If he is on the pitch, he should be first choice.

Raz's penalty at Watford last season was also excellent.
 
Bluep*ss said:
not convinced with Gabriel............never seen him take a pen......but someone should explain the offside rule to him.
Offside 4 times in the first 15 mins he was on.
Must be offside more than any PL striker.
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You do realise he's only 21 and is still learning?
You're not convinced with gabby?
Played 46 times for us and scored 21 goals.
Played 22 times for Brazil and scored 10 goals.
Are you blind or just wumming?
I'm convinced up to the fuckin eyeballs pal.
 
Bluep*ss said:
not convinced with Gabriel............never seen him take a pen......but someone should explain the offside rule to him.
Offside 4 times in the first 15 mins he was on.
Must be offside more than any PL striker.
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He has taken 3 for us .... missed 2.
 
All the stories written before a ball had been kicked describing how Salah returned to form gloriously, how Klopp out thought Pep yet again and how City were blown away by a mighty Liverpool tornado urged on by a packed Kop which unnerved City by screeching 1950s musicals had to be ripped up. The new line was how Pep had been forced to abandon his principles and turn a game against the best attacking team in the world into a goalless snore draw. Pep is even at fault for entrusting a potentially match winning penalty to a serial penalty misser.

Mahrez did miss a penalty, but that's all he did. Pep trusted him and he missed it. He didn't commit high treason, he didn't kill anyone and he didn't throw a brick at a coach. He missed a penalty. And I'm glad to report that City players consoled him, John Stones gave him support in the post match interviews, he did not have to leave the pitch on his own like a leper and I don't believe there has been any nonsense like death threats from demented "fans" - unlike the fate of a certain goalkeeper who offended that cheery bunch of scousers at the other end of the east Lancs road. City are a team and a club, and I'm proud to say they behaved with a dignity and class quite alien to our opponents yesterday.

As for the match yesterday, I thought it was intriguing but quite clearly Pep out thought Klopp. City lined up with a back four in a normal Guardiola 4-3-3 and Klopp expected the normal splitting of the CBs and the advanced full backs. This was naive as the last thing Pep was likely to do was order his troops to throw themselves on Liverpool's sword. All four of our back line showed admirable discipline and Liverpool were shown to be completely devoid of ideas when deprived of space behind the full backs and Mendy, in particular, was careful always to prevent Salah cutting inside onto his left foot. This is why Salah "looked a pale shadow of last season's player". I can't remember Ederson having a save to make in the entire match (and City were able to play out from the back in relative comfort). Part of the reason is that Liverpool's fullbacks didn't push up, as they have tended to stay deeper this season and because City's midfield is better than theirs and will exploit the space either side of their CB's. As the game wore on only one side looked likely to score. The penalty was the clearest opportunity but these things happen.
 
manimanc said:
You do realise he's only 21 and is still learning?
You're not convinced with gabby?
Played 46 times for us and scored 21 goals.
Played 22 times for Brazil and scored 10 goals.
Are you blind or just wumming?
I'm convinced up to the fuckin eyeballs pal.
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Can see why people have reservations about him, not convinced up to my eyeballs I know that much. Great player, is offside far too often, his movement and runs are great though so once he gets his timings right it should be frightening.

Penalty miss aside which was absolutely atrocious, I wasn't convinced with Mahrez and thought he was lucky to be staying on over Sterling when Sane came on. Thought his overall game was really poor even if you take that penalty out of the picture. Wasn't a classic but I'd much prefer that kind of performance than a 4-3 thriller defeat. Good result a draw for us there.
 
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Ric said:
I think it was a really good performance overall, and it felt like a significant step forward for this team. We overcame our mental hurdle at Anfield and effectively nullified a very good attacking side. We were the better team. Guardiola got his tactics spot on, and we very nearly took all three points. Anyone can miss a penalty though, it's part of the game.

Plenty of positives in the performances of Laporte, Stones, Bernardo and Fernandinho. We've now played arguably our toughest game of the season, and are top of the league with our best player to return. Can't wait for the international break to be out of the way.
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A neat summary.

Far too much fuss about the penalty, not that I didn't hurl a mass of invective in the direction of the TV at the time, embarrassing but cathartic. Moved on quickly though. Plenty more to be happy about than other wise after that performance.

If my maths is accurate, we have now lost just 3 of our last 63 league games; which is quite something.
 
Tb1981 said:
To be fair pep decided it was important to stop salah and as such putting zinchenko or Laporte would be hanging them out to dry so he put faith in mendy
Who I felt defensively did very well
The irony was Klopp set up with Gomez at full back to stop sane
This affected them more than us
Also when it gets to 60 mins at 0-0 with sane to come on it’s a perfect scenario
Only a Mahrez pen miss prevented execution of the perfect plan
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Agree it worked yesterday just think going forward it would be nice to see them play together from the start.
 
BluessinceHydeRoad said:
All the stories written before a ball had been kicked describing how Salah returned to form gloriously, how Klopp out thought Pep yet again and how City were blown away by a mighty Liverpool tornado urged on by a packed Kop which unnerved City by screeching 1950s musicals had to be ripped up. The new line was how Pep had been forced to abandon his principles and turn a game against the best attacking team in the world into a goalless snore draw. Pep is even at fault for entrusting a potentially match winning penalty to a serial penalty misser.

Mahrez did miss a penalty, but that's all he did. Pep trusted him and he missed it. He didn't commit high treason, he didn't kill anyone and he didn't throw a brick at a coach. He missed a penalty. And I'm glad to report that City players consoled him, John Stones gave him support in the post match interviews, he did not have to leave the pitch on his own like a leper and I don't believe there has been any nonsense like death threats from demented "fans" - unlike the fate of a certain goalkeeper who offended that cheery bunch of scousers at the other end of the east Lancs road. City are a team and a club, and I'm proud to say they behaved with a dignity and class quite alien to our opponents yesterday.

As for the match yesterday, I thought it was intriguing but quite clearly Pep out thought Klopp. City lined up with a back four in a normal Guardiola 4-3-3 and Klopp expected the normal splitting of the CBs and the advanced full backs. This was naive as the last thing Pep was likely to do was order his troops to throw themselves on Liverpool's sword. All four of our back line showed admirable discipline and Liverpool were shown to be completely devoid of ideas when deprived of space behind the full backs and Mendy, in particular, was careful always to prevent Salah cutting inside onto his left foot. This is why Salah "looked a pale shadow of last season's player". I can't remember Ederson having a save to make in the entire match (and City were able to play out from the back in relative comfort). Part of the reason is that Liverpool's fullbacks didn't push up, as they have tended to stay deeper this season and because City's midfield is better than theirs and will exploit the space either side of their CB's. As the game wore on only one side looked likely to score. The penalty was the clearest opportunity but these things happen.
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Beautifully put. Loving the paragraphs ;-)

Liverpool did have two attempts on target, weak Sturridge header and Salah backpass IIRC but more a case of Ederson collecting the ball than saving it.
 
Some are missing the tactical change that made all the difference yesterday and one which should have won us the game. Slowing the tempo of the game was a masterstroke from Pep, the dippers want to play the game at a hundred mile an hour because it suits their players Salah, Mane and Firiminho. Where as a slower game suits us better against them because we have more technically gifted players in the middle of the park in Fern, and the two Silva’s. When you match up Milner Henderson and Wilnaldum against our 3 there is no competition who was going to come out on top.

As was evident yesterday dippers do like to play balls over the top for the front 3 to run onto. We didn’t allow that yesterday and as we did had to wait patiently for the break and take advantage of that the latter being the case. Overall it was good result but should have been better and hats off to Pep the tactical genius.
 
BluessinceHydeRoad said:
All the stories written before a ball had been kicked describing how Salah returned to form gloriously, how Klopp out thought Pep yet again and how City were blown away by a mighty Liverpool tornado urged on by a packed Kop which unnerved City by screeching 1950s musicals had to be ripped up. The new line was how Pep had been forced to abandon his principles and turn a game against the best attacking team in the world into a goalless snore draw. Pep is even at fault for entrusting a potentially match winning penalty to a serial penalty misser.

Mahrez did miss a penalty, but that's all he did. Pep trusted him and he missed it. He didn't commit high treason, he didn't kill anyone and he didn't throw a brick at a coach. He missed a penalty. And I'm glad to report that City players consoled him, John Stones gave him support in the post match interviews, he did not have to leave the pitch on his own like a leper and I don't believe there has been any nonsense like death threats from demented "fans" - unlike the fate of a certain goalkeeper who offended that cheery bunch of scousers at the other end of the east Lancs road. City are a team and a club, and I'm proud to say they behaved with a dignity and class quite alien to our opponents yesterday.

As for the match yesterday, I thought it was intriguing but quite clearly Pep out thought Klopp. City lined up with a back four in a normal Guardiola 4-3-3 and Klopp expected the normal splitting of the CBs and the advanced full backs. This was naive as the last thing Pep was likely to do was order his troops to throw themselves on Liverpool's sword. All four of our back line showed admirable discipline and Liverpool were shown to be completely devoid of ideas when deprived of space behind the full backs and Mendy, in particular, was careful always to prevent Salah cutting inside onto his left foot. This is why Salah "looked a pale shadow of last season's player". I can't remember Ederson having a save to make in the entire match (and City were able to play out from the back in relative comfort). Part of the reason is that Liverpool's fullbacks didn't push up, as they have tended to stay deeper this season and because City's midfield is better than theirs and will exploit the space either side of their CB's. As the game wore on only one side looked likely to score. The penalty was the clearest opportunity but these things happen.
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What a great post. Puts some on here to shame. Thank you
 
In Manchester airport just now, few vermin supporters from overseas bearing their replica kits, guess there would have been more on show if they had won. Wankers make my skin crawl, only a couple of rag shirts so far.
 
Mike D said:
Some are missing the tactical change that made all the difference yesterday and one which should have won us the game. Slowing the tempo of the game was a masterstroke from Pep, the dippers want to play the game at a hundred mile an hour because it suits their players Salah, Mane and Firiminho. Where as a slower game suits us better against them because we have more technically gifted players in the middle of the park in Fern, and the two Silva’s. When you match up Milner Henderson and Wilnaldum against our 3 there is no competition who was going to come out on top.

As was evident yesterday dippers do like to play balls over the top for the front 3 to run onto. We didn’t allow that yesterday and as we did had to wait patiently for the break and take advantage of that the latter being the case. Overall it was good result but should have been better and hats off to Pep the tactical genius.
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Absolutely spot on.

I also think as the penalty miss becomes less of a fresh wound so to speak, we'll look at this point at Anfield as a very good point. Now all we have to do is push on from this. Liverpool will have a dip in form, and so will Chelsea.
 
After years of Balotelli and Yaya, I think we’ve all taken for granted, the importance of clinical penalty precision. Mahrez, took the blame yesterday, but I didn't see many options in a sky blue shirt.
Our recent shootout record has been phenomenal, and it’s the same argument for keeping Bravo as reserve goalkeeper, because so many big games go to penalties.

Aguero, Jesus, and KDB have all missed in recent seasons, and it’s a shame that Gundogan was injured.

Otherwise, I don’t see many players who would fill me with confidence.
 
I was disappointed after the game as we should of won but now i'm really pleased with the draw,i said before i would take a point
Everyone carried out the plan and props to them for completely shutting down the best front 3 in the world,allegedly
 
After the first 15 minutes we looked a lot more comfortable and positionally set at Anfield than I can remember us being before. We looked like the home team for most of the game, controlled it and did enough for all 3 points. Was more obvious than normal how much they rely on a long punt up to the front three when their full backs can't get over the half way line. They looked bang average at times.

Would have loved three points but happy to be top, KDB to come back, and two tough aways done and dusted already.
 
Scaring Europe to Death said:
After years of Balotelli and Yaya, I think we’ve all taken for granted, the importance of clinical penalty precision. Mahrez, took the blame yesterday, but I didn't see many options in a sky blue shirt.
Our recent shootout record has been phenomenal, and it’s the same argument for keeping Bravo as reserve goalkeeper, because so many big games go to penalties.

Aguero, Jesus, and KDB have all missed in recent seasons, and it’s a shame that Gundogan was injured.

Otherwise, I don’t see many players who would fill me with confidence.
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I didn't see anyone in a sky blue shirt..............
 
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