The Boxing thread

Great fight , both fighters deserve a lot of credit.

Tyson is incredibly awkward.
Would like to see more punches thrown from him..but thats heavy weight boxing for you. Very tactical.

Wilder really needs to get that left hook going. He needs 2 showstoppers. Rith the right training its possible.

Really believe both fighters can beat AJ.

AJ wouldn't cope with Tysons ring IQ & movement .

Wilder will clock AJ a few more times than Tyson as his movement is very orthodox.
 
Love watching this fight.
Leonard is my hero.

Was a great fight by Tyson,
The rematch is going to be tasty.


If you havent read it, there is a great book called The Four Kings chronicling the careers of Leonard, Hearns, Hagler and Duran. There were some superb fights between those four . Leonard Hearns and Hearns Hagler stand out for me. The later is probably the most brutal few minutes I have seen in a boxing ring. Hearns broke his hand on Haglers head in the first round. But refused to retire. After he lost he then refused to go to hospital for a couple of days or so, so it didn't become known that his hand had been broken and thus detract from Haglers win. Fantastic sportsmanship.
 
If you havent read it, there is a great book called The Four Kings chronicling the careers of Leonard, Hearns, Hagler and Duran. There were some superb fights between those four . Leonard Hearns and Hearns Hagler stand out for me. The later is probably the most brutal few minutes I have seen in a boxing ring. Hearns broke his hand on Haglers head in the first round. But refused to retire. After he lost he then refused to go to hospital for a couple of days or so, so it didn't become known that his hand had been broken and thus detract from Haglers win. Fantastic sportsmanship.

Dont make them like they used to.

The Hitman is a great boxer to watch.
Had a sledge hammer right hand and every other punch in the book, simaler build to Wilder. Perhaps wilder can learn a thing two.

I have watched a documentary of the era. Would definitely try get my hands on a copy.
 
Dont make them like they used to.

The Hitman is a great boxer to watch.
Had a sledge hammer right hand and every other punch in the book, simaler build to Wilder. Perhaps wilder can learn a thing two.

I have watched a documentary of the era. Would definitely try get my hands on a copy.

Wasn't Hearns world title holder at 5 different weights ?
 
So i decided to read up on boxing laws and protocols to understand the Judging stuff. Anyone else aware of this? i assume the hard core in here do but fuck if i did.

The tl;dr is the fucking promoter pays them to all intents and purposes. Perks, extra ringside seats? just ask your "boss" (promoter) to sort it then you are in his fucking pocket. Be made aware there is a new merc on your drive when you get home in consideration for "understanding" x fighter in a bout.

How this is allowed is beyond me. Boxing boards? they make Harry Rednapp look like a beginner.
 
Full credit to Fury but I think AJ beats both Wilder(especially him) and Fury. The fights will happen too provided they both stay active and game for it.

I don't know how anyone came away from watching that fight with the idea that Wilder is some massive win or the fight itself is up there with the great fights of old. It's a good win/performance for Fury but lets be real although he's a dangerous opponent, Wilder was never going down as a great even in what most people deem a poor HW era. I've said it before and nothing I saw in that fight has changed my mind, Wilder is not a boxer at heart he's an athlete with serious power who took up boxing because he couldn't make it in football(American). He's probably gone further than most would expect someone like that would, so credit to him for that. His boxing record for the amount of fights he's had is enough to tell you he's not even worth mentioning in the same sentence as the greats, it's a padded record that's only recently started getting good which should have ended with him taking a loss ultimately.

I think AJ knocks him out provided he keeps away from his right hand(ring IQ, Wilder doesn't have it), just as Fury would have if he had the power to do so. The way I see it AJ has the best of both worlds power up there with Wilder as his KO percentage shows and boxing ability visibly ahead of Wilder while improving every fight.

With Fury it's far closer as he edges it on his boxing and handspeed but if AJ had Fury hurt he would finish him because he is much smarter and controlled at picking his punches in those situations, he's the best finisher in the HW division for me. I don't see Fury surviving if AJ has him hurt and I think he will get that chance as some of the shots he was hit with reminded me of the Cunningham fight, simply put he's been caught by much lesser boxers than AJ and Wilder showed those opportunities are still there.

I'm warming to Fury again after this performance and with his mental health campaign but that doesn't mean anyone has to subscribe to the trashtalk aimed at AJ, the lie about him turning down $80m to fight(nobody actually believes that after the details were released but nobody is calling Fury out for repeating it oddly, it's not making him look good), the Frank Bruno comparisons(do they even watch boxing or just read twitter about it?), the questions about his chin when there's nothing to suggest his is any worse than rest of the best right now. I suppose boxing has always been like this though, people pick favourites and knock others down to maintain their ideals often for arbitrary reasons rather than any insight. I just hope these fights happen soon, the real showdown will be AJ vs Fury.
 
Last edited:
Full credit to Fury but I think AJ beats both Wilder(especially him) and Fury. The fights will happen too provided they both stay active and game for it.

I don't know how anyone came away from watching that fight with the idea that Wilder is some massive win or the fight itself is up there with the great fights of old. It's a good win/performance for Fury but lets be real although he's a dangerous opponent, Wilder was never going down as a great even in what most people deem a poor HW era. I've said it before and nothing I saw in that fight has changed my mind, Wilder is not a boxer at heart he's an athlete with serious power who took up boxing because he couldn't make it in football(American). He's probably gone further than most would expect someone like that would, so credit to him for that. His boxing record for the amount of fights he's had is enough to tell you he's not even worth mentioning in the same sentence as the greats, it's a padded record that's only recently started getting good which should have ended with him taking a loss ultimately.

I think AJ knocks him out provided he keeps away from his right hand(ring IQ, Wilder doesn't have it), just as Fury would have if he had the power to do so. The way I see it AJ has the best of both worlds power up there with Wilder as his KO percentage shows and boxing ability visibly ahead of Wilder while improving every fight.

With Fury it's far closer as he edges it on his boxing and handspeed but if AJ had Fury hurt he would finish him because he is much smarter and controlled at picking his punches in those situations, he's the best finisher in the HW division for me. I don't see Fury surviving if AJ has him hurt and I think he will get that chance as some of the shots he was hit with reminded me of the Cunningham fight, simply put he's been caught by much lesser boxers than AJ and Wilder showed those opportunities are still there.

I'm warming to Fury again after this performance and with his mental health campaign but that doesn't mean anyone has to subscribe to the trashtalk aimed at AJ, the lie about him turning down $80m to fight(nobody actually believes that after the details were released but nobody is calling Fury out for repeating it oddly, it's not making him look good), the Frank Bruno comparisons(do they even watch boxing or just read twitter about it?), the questions about his chin when there's nothing to suggest his is any worse than rest of the best right now. I suppose boxing has always been like this though, people pick favourites and knock others down to maintain their ideals often for arbitrary reasons rather than any insight. I just hope these fights happen soon, the real showdown will be AJ vs Fury.
I enjoy your posts on the boxing thread.
 
I am no fan of Fury and have called him a bum on here many times, he won me over with that performance, the man can box, he was outstanding for most of the fight and won clearly, thought the count was a bit suspect, a bit like the Tyson v Douglas one, when i think Douglas got up about 13 seconds after Tyson dropped him. All that said, Fury deserved to win on the fight and he proved me wrong for sure, no way Wilder will fight him again and I can see Joshua evading him for a while, until the public give him nowhere to go.
 
I am no fan of Fury and have called him a bum on here many times, he won me over with that performance, the man can box, he was outstanding for most of the fight and won clearly, thought the count was a bit suspect, a bit like the Tyson v Douglas one, when i think Douglas got up about 13 seconds after Tyson dropped him. All that said, Fury deserved to win on the fight and he proved me wrong for sure, no way Wilder will fight him again and I can see Joshua evading him for a while, until the public give him nowhere to go.

I think a refs count is a refs count and not a lot to do with ten seconds...douglas from memory had his knee on the floor at 4 and tyson cocked the count by not retreating to his corner...one thing's for sure at the start of the next round nobody was complaining about a long count cause Tyson was gonna take his head off...when folk seen douglas had other plans the cocked up count become relevant bum bum
 
Last edited:
Diego Corrales v Castillo (2005)

10th rnd is a classic, got dropped twice. Corrales ditched the gum shield and had a point deducted, bought himself time and cleared his head. One of the great turn arounds in 3 plus minutes of boxing.Corrales died in a motorbike accident not long after.
.
 

Don't have an account? Register now and see fewer ads!

SIGN UP
Back
Top