Liverpool (H) Post Match Thread

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worsleyweb said:
Walking back into town last night there was s a group of 5 or 6 absolute pond life vile scousers. All about twenty. One of them was shouting your fucking shite, generally being a knob and trying to trip city fans up.

One of them said something to my 13 year old daughter being a slag so I faced up to the fuckers. Absolute wankers.

I was quite pleasantly surprised to be insulted by being called fuckoff David Cameron who is one of my all times heroes. It just added to the night for me. I then had my coat and smart shoes insulted. I informed the scousers it was cashmere and they wouldn’t be able to afford it. I stood my ground like Alan Shearer against Roy Keane and my attire and barrel chest won the day. I would have told them my shoes were bolvaint but I don’t think they would have got that.

Thankfully I then bumped into gdm and had a civilised chat walking back into town.

First time I have ever got involved in any form of bother at the Etihad.
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I saw that and had to laugh at the scouse saying 'what the fuck is that coat?' I was loitering around ready to jump in and defend you if it kicked off until i realised i was walking the wrong way.
 
mosssideblue said:
Nor me, he is fast becoming the next Suarez. Infact I am not sure Vinnie even touched him
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Salah is a right twat - no shame - spends half his life on the floor, I’m hoping at least a few of the refs will be aware of his antics and less likely to fall into the trap. Whatever the media say when Michael Oliver say the Newcastle pen played back he must have felt duped.
 
Maly Wilson said:
Fantastic result last night & a belting game to boot.

However, I’ve heard a lot of nonesense being spoken (not just on here) with regards to Vinny’s tackle. Scissors is absolute bollocks, studs showing is absolute bollocks, out of control is absolute bollocks, this that & the other absolute bollocks. Bit boring talking about the laws of the game.......but

The laws of the game clearly state that:
Careless challenges should be a free kick with no further action.
Reckless should be a free kick with a caution
Using excessive force is a free kick & sending off.

The definitions are:
Careless: the player has shown a lack of attention or consideration when making his challenge or that he acted without precaution
Reckless: the player has acted with complete disregard of the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent
Excessive force: the player has far exceeded the necessary use of force & is in danger of injuring his opponent

There’s also laws & sanctions about dangerous play:
Playing in a dangerous manner is defined as any action that, while trying to play the ball, threatens injury to someone (including the player himself)
If a player plays in a dangerous manner in a “normal” challenge, the referee should not take any disciplinary action
If the action is made with obvious risk of injury the referee should caution the player
If a player denies an obvious goal-scoring opportunity playing in a dangerous manner the referee should send off the player

I’m all for good debate, but at lease debate the correct things.....
So to put it simply, if you think Vinny used excessive force, then he should’ve been sent off.
If you think he was reckless, then a caution was the correct decision.
Exactly the same as Mane last season.

Personally, I think that it was reckless, but I don’t think he ‘far exceeded the necessary use of force’ so for me, the ref got this one correct, but I suppose it depends on your interpretation or definition of excessive force
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It's all semantics. The words careless, reckless, excessive force derived from the recast of the laws 20 years ago but it was only later FIFA tacked onto it the free kick /yellow / red definitions. Reckless should have been the red and excessive force (i.e. getting the ball but just too hard) shouid have been yellow.
 
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nmc said:
Salah is a right twat - no shame - spends half his life on the floor, I’m hoping at least a few of the refs will be aware of his antics and less likely to fall into the trap. Whatever the media say when Michael Oliver say the Newcastle pen played back he must have felt duped.
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I loathe this cheating behaviour and particularly from good players.

Its a god job I am not City's manager - Winning 2-1 with only a minute left, I would have been tempted to sub on a player who I could do without for three games and told him to go and say hello to Salah
 
mosssideblue said:
I loathe this cheating behaviour and particularly from good players.

Its a god job I am not City's manager - Winning 2-1 with only a minute left, I would have been tempted to sub on a player who I could do without for three games and told him to go and say hello to Salah
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Where’s Barton when you need him.
 
mosssideblue said:
Mate. First of all I am delighted we won, as we all are. I am simply saying Vinnie got away with one (and I'm delighted at that too) - forget the other tackles whether they were worthy of red or not. I have just looked at it again on Utube to see whether my eyes were deceiving me as some were saying it wasn't even a foul. He leaps off the floor and goes in studs showing. Now, I don't for one moment believe he made much contact (if any) with Salah who again proved his ability to mock injury, but the rules of the law could have quite gone against Vinnie last night.

The acid test would be, what would BMs reaction be had that have been VVD on Kun ?
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I agree with you. In my day, it was a great tackle but now, even though eradicating such great tackles diminishes the game in my view, I'd be complaining like fuck if one of theirs did that to one of ours.

Mind you, Rojo used to get away with those every week last season so fair play to Taylor for his excellent judgement on this occasion.
 
Talk about clutching
The pitch was over watered, the lines too thick, not straight, we left the grass long.

Kinell' Dippers you got beat fair and square.

Left the grass to grow long; in January!!!

Ha Dippers, Stick to growing weed in your terrace loft with heat lamps.

And correct me but our excellent ground staff regularly win awards for the fine playing surface.
 
mosssideblue said:
Mate. First of all I am delighted we won, as we all are. I am simply saying Vinnie got away with one (and I'm delighted at that too) - forget the other tackles whether they were worthy of red or not. I have just looked at it again on Utube to see whether my eyes were deceiving me as some were saying it wasn't even a foul. He leaps off the floor and goes in studs showing. Now, I don't for one moment believe he made much contact (if any) with Salah who again proved his ability to mock injury, but the rules of the law could have quite gone against Vinnie last night.

The acid test would be, what would BMs reaction be had that have been VVD on Kun ?
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Was much like Delph’s against Leicester where it’s one of those “orange card” tackles. Thought the Delph red was harsh, thought Vinny getting a yellow was just about the right decision.
 
NorCalBlue said:
I hope this guy hates Liverpool and he's trying to wind up their fans, because that being a serious comment doesn't bear thinking about.

I know very little about the technical details of goal line technology, but I'd bet a lot of money that you don't need lines on the pitch at all - based on the positions of the cameras, the goal-line coordinates would just be programmed into the software that calculates the ball position from the images.
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After seeing some of the genuine dipper tweets(which are truly unbelievable). I really wouldn’t be at all surprised at it being the real deal mate. Always the victims hahaha.
 
ysmsa said:
Talk about clutching
The pitch was over watered, the lines too thick, not straight, we left the grass long.

Kinell' Dippers you got beat fair and square.

Left the grass to grow long; in January!!!

Ha Dippers, Stick to growing weed in your terrace loft with heat lamps.

And correct me but our excellent ground staff regularly win awards for the fine playing surface.
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Small margins and all that I suppose, if we did leave the grass long and over water the pitch it’s using home advantage. Just like they got together with Merseyside police to organise an angry mob to vandalise City’s coach on the way to the ground.
 
ysmsa said:
Talk about clutching
The pitch was over watered, the lines too thick, not straight, we left the grass long.

Kinell' Dippers you got beat fair and square.

Left the grass to grow long; in January!!!

Ha Dippers, Stick to growing weed in your terrace loft with heat lamps.

And correct me but our excellent ground staff regularly win awards for the fine playing surface.
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We let the grass grow (in freezing temps in January) to slow the ball down on the ground.
Then we over watered the pitch to speed it back up.
Genius I tell you.
 
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